Judge sez: porn past is still prologue, stay away from kids

Started by CountDeMoney, January 16, 2013, 10:20:36 AM

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derspiess

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Quote from: derspiess on January 16, 2013, 11:01:54 AM
Quote from: Martinus on January 16, 2013, 10:59:17 AM
Quote from: derspiess on January 16, 2013, 10:58:35 AM
Quote from: Valmy on January 16, 2013, 10:51:25 AM
Quote from: derspiess on January 16, 2013, 10:46:18 AM
Boo-hoo.  Should realize that that shit will follow you around the rest of your life before you participate in it.

Well now everything will follow you around the rest of your life thanks to the internet.  You should probably go through life with an alias from about age 14 to 28 just to be safe.
Yeah, that or just be mindful of what you do.
A lot of stuff you say on this board would get you fired in a lot of places.
What?  And from what places?
You've made no effort to hide your work for the Bengals.  Some employers might worry that you've been tainted by association with the Brown family and failure.

That would have been funnier a couple years back when the Bengals were always worthless.  At least now they're adequate, and better than the Steelers.
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derspiess

Quote from: Grey Fox on January 16, 2013, 11:22:56 AM
You're in favor of torture! Fired!

Actually I think I had a conversation at work with some guys and we all favored enhanced interrogation techniques.

QuoteYou have a lot of posts, I'm not going thru them all.

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"Teachers then showed administrators downloads of Halas' sex videos from their smartphones."

I'd prefer shits like that to stay away from my kids over a former porn actress.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on January 16, 2013, 11:48:04 AM
"Teachers then showed administrators downloads of Halas' sex videos from their smartphones."

I'd prefer shits like that to stay away from my kids over a former porn actress.

:lol:  We're a nation of Gladys Kravitzes.  Just gotta be all up in everybody else's shit.

dps

Quote from: Martinus on January 16, 2013, 10:58:41 AM
Quote“Although her pornography career has concluded, the ongoing availability of her pornographic materials on the Internet will continue to impede her from being an effective teacher and respected colleague,” Cabos-Owen said in the 46-page decision issued Friday by the Commission on Professional Competence.

This is entirely out of line for the commission to say that. It's one thing for them to say the school had a right to fire her because they made their decision, but ruling her effectively unable to hold a teaching job because of her legal job she performed in the past is outrageous.

I gotta agree with Marti on this one.  I think a reasonable argument can be made that the school board was within its rights to fire her, but the court going beyond that and outright ruling that she's unfit to teach?  No, that's not a good ruling at all.

merithyn

Quote from: dps on January 16, 2013, 12:09:17 PM
Quote from: Martinus on January 16, 2013, 10:58:41 AM
Quote"Although her pornography career has concluded, the ongoing availability of her pornographic materials on the Internet will continue to impede her from being an effective teacher and respected colleague," Cabos-Owen said in the 46-page decision issued Friday by the Commission on Professional Competence.

This is entirely out of line for the commission to say that. It's one thing for them to say the school had a right to fire her because they made their decision, but ruling her effectively unable to hold a teaching job because of her legal job she performed in the past is outrageous.

I gotta agree with Marti on this one.  I think a reasonable argument can be made that the school board was within its rights to fire her, but the court going beyond that and outright ruling that she's unfit to teach?  No, that's not a good ruling at all.

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derspiess

Quote from: dps on January 16, 2013, 12:09:17 PM
Quote from: Martinus on January 16, 2013, 10:58:41 AM
Quote“Although her pornography career has concluded, the ongoing availability of her pornographic materials on the Internet will continue to impede her from being an effective teacher and respected colleague,” Cabos-Owen said in the 46-page decision issued Friday by the Commission on Professional Competence.

This is entirely out of line for the commission to say that. It's one thing for them to say the school had a right to fire her because they made their decision, but ruling her effectively unable to hold a teaching job because of her legal job she performed in the past is outrageous.

I gotta agree with Marti on this one.  I think a reasonable argument can be made that the school board was within its rights to fire her, but the court going beyond that and outright ruling that she's unfit to teach?  No, that's not a good ruling at all.

Her moral authority is compromised, and it would be extremely difficult for her to control a class where everyone is snickering all the time-- sounds like one big continuous classroom distraction.  I just don't see her being a very effective teacher with that hanging over her head all the time. 

It'd be a different story if she were a college prof (hell I'd bet some programs at certain schools might even require that experience).  But in a situation where she's having to teach kids, yeah I'd say she's unfit.
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Valmy

Quote from: derspiess on January 16, 2013, 12:34:21 PM
Her moral authority is compromised, and it would be extremely difficult for her to control a class where everyone is snickering all the time-- sounds like one big continuous classroom distraction.  I just don't see her being a very effective teacher with that hanging over her head all the time. 

It'd be a different story if she were a college prof (hell I'd bet some programs at certain schools might even require that experience).  But in a situation where she's having to teach kids, yeah I'd say she's unfit.

Well yeah maybe for continuing to teach Middle School but you think like 6 and 7 year olds would be snickering?  Kindergartners?
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on January 16, 2013, 12:34:21 PM
It'd be a different story if she were a college prof (hell I'd bet some programs at certain schools might even require that experience).

Weak.

derspiess

Quote from: Valmy on January 16, 2013, 12:36:23 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 16, 2013, 12:34:21 PM
Her moral authority is compromised, and it would be extremely difficult for her to control a class where everyone is snickering all the time-- sounds like one big continuous classroom distraction.  I just don't see her being a very effective teacher with that hanging over her head all the time. 

It'd be a different story if she were a college prof (hell I'd bet some programs at certain schools might even require that experience).  But in a situation where she's having to teach kids, yeah I'd say she's unfit.

Well yeah maybe for continuing to teach Middle School but you think like 6 and 7 year olds would be snickering?  Kindergartners?

No.  I can imagine quite a few parents throwing a fit, though.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Valmy

Quote from: derspiess on January 16, 2013, 12:39:14 PM
No.  I can imagine quite a few parents throwing a fit, though.

Oh fine move the goal posts on me.
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derspiess

Quote from: Valmy on January 16, 2013, 12:40:23 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 16, 2013, 12:39:14 PM
No.  I can imagine quite a few parents throwing a fit, though.

Oh fine move the goal posts on me.

Just figured I'd add that in there. 
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall