The meaning of "Christmas"

[Razgovory]

Definitely...the Pope basically said recently that Protestants do not have true church because they do not have a true priesthood nor do they have proper sacraments. Basically he views them as ecclesial communities of Christian lay people operating without proper guidance. In the same declaration he stated Orthodox had true priesthood/sacrament but suffered an imperfection in that they didn't properly acknowledge the authority of the successor to Peter.

I think that's a fair assessment. The only church I can even see having a real beef with that is the Anglicans and Lutherans, who to my mind have what I'd consider a professional priesthood and true sacraments.

I think we can recognize Lutherans, Presbyterians and Anglicans are far superior to Baptists, Pentecostals, Nazarene and etc ilk.

Pretty words, but you're still going to burn in hell for following the Nazi Antichrist of Rome.

As opposed to a religous movement founded by an unrepentant German anti-Semite?

[OttoVonBismarck]

I have to say, Raz's posts have been incisive as of late.

[derspiess]

As opposed to a religous movement founded by an unrepentant German anti-Semite?

Meh, who wasn't back then.

[Neil]

I have to say, Raz's posts have been incisive as of late.

  And you were doing so well, too...

[Maximus]

As well as Raz anyway.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Definitely...the Pope basically said recently that Protestants do not have true church because they do not have a true priesthood nor do they have proper sacraments. Basically he views them as ecclesial communities of Christian lay people operating without proper guidance. In the same declaration he stated Orthodox had true priesthood/sacrament but suffered an imperfection in that they didn't properly acknowledge the authority of the successor to Peter.

I think that's a fair assessment. The only church I can even see having a real beef with that is the Anglicans and Lutherans, who to my mind have what I'd consider a professional priesthood and true sacraments.

I think we can recognize Lutherans, Presbyterians and Anglicans are far superior to Baptists, Pentecostals, Nazarene and etc ilk.

Pretty words, but you're still going to burn in hell for following the Nazi Antichrist of Rome.

Aren't you an Ortho? You know the Holy Father has extended various options to let your kind re-enter the flock with a lot of your extant customs in place.

Something to think about   .

[OttoVonBismarck]

I have to say, Raz's posts have been incisive as of late.

  And you were doing so well, too...

Please, Raz's posts have been at least an entertaining as:

Why?  Most of the people who celebrate Yule are douchebags, whereas most of the good things in our society come from Christians.

And just as serious.

[Neil]

Aren't you an Ortho? You know the Holy Father has extended various options to let your kind re-enter the flock with a lot of your extant customs in place.

Something to think about   .

No, he's a Protestant.  Scipio is the Orthodox.

[Neil]

I have to say, Raz's posts have been incisive as of late.

  And you were doing so well, too...

Please, Raz's posts have been at least an entertaining as:

Why?  Most of the people who celebrate Yule are douchebags, whereas most of the good things in our society come from Christians.

And just as serious.

It's important that people know that hippie bullshit isn't to be tolerated.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Aren't you an Ortho? You know the Holy Father has extended various options to let your kind re-enter the flock with a lot of your extant customs in place.

Something to think about   .

No, he's a Protestant.  Scipio is the Orthodox.

Ah, that's a pity. I actually liked Beeb.

[Admiral Yi]

Actually I think Beeb is Uniate.

[Ed Anger]

Beeb worships Don Cherry.

[Razgovory]

Actually I think Beeb is Uniate.

It's some kind of Sola Scriptura thing.

[The Minsky Moment]

Beeb worships Don Cherry.

And Ornette Coleman?

[Ed Anger]

Beeb worships Don Cherry.

And Ornette Coleman?

I think you missed my hockey joke.