Elementary school shooting gun control pissing contest

[11B4V]

I like Raz.

Same here. But he thinks I'm a gun nut and I am far from that. So, he's a little bonkers.

[garbon]

Yay New York!

[DGuller]

I think state solutions to gun violence are a ridiculous concept.  The benefits of an individual state action are going to be minimized due to proximity to less civilized states, but the inadvertent legal troubles of someone accidentally straying into a tough gun law state with an illegal gun or magazine in their glove compartment are going to be maximized.  We're a single country for a reason.

[Razgovory]

I like Raz.

Same here. But he thinks I'm a gun nut and I am far from that. So, he's a little bonkers.

No, I think you are guy with tats.

[Razgovory]

Sorry, I ain't feeling tonight.  Maybe tomorrow.  I looked through the archives for a while but got disgusted by Grumbler-Berkut "Only I know what Freedom is" rants.

I've already thrown everything I have on the table, so don't bother if you're expecting to have a conversation.

Oh and I found the thread.  I confused it with some similar arguments that you never answered.  http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,7907.0.html

Quote from: Razgovory on June 28, 2012, 12:43:14 pm

    So you like laws changing drastically as you move from one district to another?


District?  You mean "state", right?  Anywho-- yeah, pretty much.  That way I can pick up & move to another state if I don't like my own state's laws.  I can happily live in a red state while some fruitcake left coaster lives happily in his state.

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    Are there laws that you support but wouldn't want as a federal laws?


Yeah, probably.  More importantly there are laws in other states (and some laws in Ohio) that I don't want to see implemented on a federal level.

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    Say gun ownership laws or conceal and carry or whatever?



While I generally favor more gun rights across the country, I'd leave it to individual states to decide how they permit concealed carry.

[dps]

I think state solutions to gun violence are a ridiculous concept.  The benefits of an individual state action are going to be minimized due to proximity to less civilized states, but the inadvertent legal troubles of someone accidentally straying into a tough gun law state with an illegal gun or magazine in their glove compartment are going to be maximized.  We're a single country for a reason.

Not big on federalism, are you?

[CountDeMoney]

Just not the people who defend it passionately?

"I'm big on the Bill of Rights...but people who are big on the Bill of Rights for a living suck."

[derspiess]

Oh and I found the thread.  I confused it with some similar arguments that you never answered. 

  Sour grapes.  Should have just left it alone.

[derspiess]

Just not the people who defend it passionately?

"I'm big on the Bill of Rights...but people who are big on the Bill of Rights for a living suck."

They don't give two shits about the Second Amendment, so I wouldn't give them credit for defending the Bill of Rights.

[DGuller]

I think state solutions to gun violence are a ridiculous concept.  The benefits of an individual state action are going to be minimized due to proximity to less civilized states, but the inadvertent legal troubles of someone accidentally straying into a tough gun law state with an illegal gun or magazine in their glove compartment are going to be maximized.  We're a single country for a reason.

Not big on federalism, are you?

Not when it comes to rights, no.  Also not when you the end result is a very messy legal patchwork that makes Holy Roman Empire look centralized.

[crazy canuck]

I think state solutions to gun violence are a ridiculous concept.  The benefits of an individual state action are going to be minimized due to proximity to less civilized states, but the inadvertent legal troubles of someone accidentally straying into a tough gun law state with an illegal gun or magazine in their glove compartment are going to be maximized.  We're a single country for a reason.

Not big on federalism, are you?

Pointing out that a particular division of powers within a federal state doesnt make sense does not make one an enemy of Federalism.

[Phillip V]

"Americans should be allowed to have whatever damn weapons they want. It keeps government honest." ~ Thomas Jefferson to George Washington at Abraham Lincoln's Third Inauguration, 1802.

[sbr]

[CountDeMoney]

Just not the people who defend it passionately?

"I'm big on the Bill of Rights...but people who are big on the Bill of Rights for a living suck."

They don't give two shits about the Second Amendment, so I wouldn't give them credit for defending the Bill of Rights.

Actually, they do.

They just don't masturbate to it like you do.

[derspiess]

Just not the people who defend it passionately?

"I'm big on the Bill of Rights...but people who are big on the Bill of Rights for a living suck."

They don't give two shits about the Second Amendment, so I wouldn't give them credit for defending the Bill of Rights.

Actually, they do.

They just don't masturbate to it like you do.

No they don't, and they've said as much.