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Started by viper37, June 28, 2012, 10:38:16 AM

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viper37

June 28, 2012, 10:38:16 AM
Could you please give me the difference between the Federal health care program and the one Romney passed in Massachussets?
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June 28, 2012, 10:40:06 AM
Wondering myself.

a'int been payin much attention to either.
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June 28, 2012, 10:41:38 AM
I have yet to pass anything in Mass.
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June 28, 2012, 10:42:56 AM
One is massive destroyer of liberty and an enslaver of the people.
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June 28, 2012, 10:48:32 AM
Isn't it basically zero?
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June 28, 2012, 10:53:10 AM
Federal vs. state level.
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June 28, 2012, 10:55:07 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 28, 2012, 10:53:10 AM
Federal vs. state level.

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June 28, 2012, 10:59:34 AM
Boston.com

QuoteMassachusetts is in a unique position today. In some ways it shares part of the spotlight on the Affordable Care Act. The state's 2006 health care law, signed by Governor Mitt Romney, served as a model for the national law. But, because of that state law and others, a decision to overturn the Affordable Care Act would mean fewer changes for people in Massachusetts than in other states.

The mandate requiring most people in Massachusetts to have health insurance would stand. About 98 percent of people in the state have coverage. The question before the court is, in part, whether the federal government can require people to purchase a product. The ability of states to do so was not in dispute.

State law already protects coverage of people with pre-existing conditions, requires insurers to use a large majority of premium dollars for actual medical expenses and cover some young adults. But many of those state provisions do not apply to people who get their insurance from large employers who are self-insured. The federal law extends such coverage requirements to them, as well.

Aside from the direct impacts on consumers, there are hundreds of millions of dollars in new federal funding at stake for Massachusetts.

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June 28, 2012, 11:47:49 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 28, 2012, 10:53:10 AM
Federal vs. state level.

I'm trying to figure out why that is meaningful.
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June 28, 2012, 12:10:12 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 28, 2012, 11:47:49 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 28, 2012, 10:53:10 AM
Federal vs. state level.

I'm trying to figure out why that is meaningful.

Why?
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June 28, 2012, 12:18:50 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 28, 2012, 11:47:49 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 28, 2012, 10:53:10 AM
Federal vs. state level.

I'm trying to figure out why that is meaningful.

Because our government is a federal, not unitary, system.  Not that hard to figure out, really. 

I hate the concept of an insurance mandate, but it doesn't bother nearly as much if some far away leftist state tries it out as it does to have it implemented on the national level.
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June 28, 2012, 12:38:15 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 28, 2012, 12:10:12 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 28, 2012, 11:47:49 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 28, 2012, 10:53:10 AM
Federal vs. state level.

I'm trying to figure out why that is meaningful.

Why?

To figure out why someone would think like that.
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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

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June 28, 2012, 12:43:14 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 28, 2012, 12:18:50 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 28, 2012, 11:47:49 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 28, 2012, 10:53:10 AM
Federal vs. state level.

I'm trying to figure out why that is meaningful.

Because our government is a federal, not unitary, system.  Not that hard to figure out, really. 

I hate the concept of an insurance mandate, but it doesn't bother nearly as much if some far away leftist state tries it out as it does to have it implemented on the national level.

So you like laws changing drastically as you move from one district to another?  Are there laws that you support but wouldn't want as a federal laws?  Say gun ownership laws or conceal and carry or whatever?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

#13
June 28, 2012, 12:44:17 PM
One signficant difference between Romneycare and Obamacare is that AFAIK Romneycare is financed entirely out of revenue.

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#14
June 28, 2012, 01:40:01 PM
Romneycare left us with huge bills.
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