Elementary school shooting gun control pissing contest

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derspiess

#855
January 15, 2013, 02:19:14 PM
Surprise, surprise.  Obama is using schoolkids as props in his big announcement tomorrow.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

CountDeMoney

#856
January 15, 2013, 02:28:38 PM
They have no position on specific gun control initiatives, which has nothing to do with the Second Amendment.

crazy canuck

#857
January 15, 2013, 02:31:00 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2013, 02:19:14 PM
Surprise, surprise.  Obama is using schoolkids as props in his big announcement tomorrow.

Why the sarcasm?  Kids did die didnt they?  The most recent tragedy is the impetus for this isn't it?

CountDeMoney

#858
January 15, 2013, 02:31:17 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2013, 02:19:14 PM
Surprise, surprise.  Obama is using schoolkids as props in his big announcement tomorrow.

Wasn't it a bunch of murdered schoolkids that started this whole discussion in the first place?  Or are you starting to channel James Yeager now?

derspiess

#859
January 15, 2013, 03:05:34 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 15, 2013, 02:31:00 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2013, 02:19:14 PM
Surprise, surprise.  Obama is using schoolkids as props in his big announcement tomorrow.

Why the sarcasm?  Kids did die didnt they?  The most recent tragedy is the impetus for this isn't it?

Obama's anti-gun agenda has nothing to do with the tragedy.  Whatever he's going to propose tomorrow, I can guarantee it's been in the Dems' back pocket for quite a while.  They were just waiting for a crisis/tragedy to push it.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

derspiess

#860
January 15, 2013, 03:06:04 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2013, 02:28:38 PM
They have no position on specific gun control initiatives, which has nothing to do with the Second Amendment.

Nice cop out.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

The Minsky Moment

#861
January 15, 2013, 03:11:32 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2013, 11:38:59 AM
They don't give two shits about the Second Amendment, so I wouldn't give them credit for defending the Bill of Rights.

So you defend that NRA for standing up for civil rights, even though the only rights they care about are the rights to bear arms?
Whereas the ACLU - which defends every single other  individual and civil right in the Constitution - they get a big fat zero on the Spicy Liberty Exam because they don't take any position on gun rights.

Why don't you just fess up and admit the patchouli turns you off.
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The Minsky Moment

#862
January 15, 2013, 03:16:59 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2013, 03:06:04 PM
Nice cop out.

It's not a cop out - they are very clear that they do not beleive that the Second Amendment raises any civil liberties issues.  Because the ACLU only takes positions on civil liberties issues, they have nothing to say, just like they have nothing to say about monetary policy, or inheritance rights.
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derspiess

#863
January 15, 2013, 03:23:09 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on January 15, 2013, 03:11:32 PM
So you defend that NRA for standing up for civil rights, even though the only rights they care about are the rights to bear arms?

Well the NRA is pretty much by definition focused on the 2nd Amendment and gun rights.

QuoteWhereas the ACLU - which defends every single other  individual and civil right in the Constitution - they get a big fat zero on the Spicy Liberty Exam because they don't take any position on gun rights.

Why don't you just fess up and admit the patchouli turns you off.

I have, actually.  The fact that they are left-leaning is the reason I don't like them.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

CountDeMoney

#864
January 15, 2013, 03:28:13 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2013, 03:05:34 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 15, 2013, 02:31:00 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2013, 02:19:14 PM
Surprise, surprise.  Obama is using schoolkids as props in his big announcement tomorrow.

Why the sarcasm?  Kids did die didnt they?  The most recent tragedy is the impetus for this isn't it?

Obama's anti-gun agenda has nothing to do with the tragedy.  Whatever he's going to propose tomorrow, I can guarantee it's been in the Dems' back pocket for quite a while.  They were just waiting for a crisis/tragedy to push it.

Right, he waited his entire first administration and all the mass shootings during it to finally spring his "anti-gun agenda" on us.  Man, you've officially drank the La Pierre Kool-Aid.    :lol:

You usually get a pass for your anti-choice fetus love and your "traditional gender roles" bullshit, but congrats, you've officially scored the Ignorant White Trash Hat Trick.  :cheers:

Barrister

#865
January 15, 2013, 03:43:29 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2013, 03:05:34 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 15, 2013, 02:31:00 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2013, 02:19:14 PM
Surprise, surprise.  Obama is using schoolkids as props in his big announcement tomorrow.

Why the sarcasm?  Kids did die didnt they?  The most recent tragedy is the impetus for this isn't it?

Obama's anti-gun agenda has nothing to do with the tragedy.  Whatever he's going to propose tomorrow, I can guarantee it's been in the Dems' back pocket for quite a while.  They were just waiting for a crisis/tragedy to push it.

Good grief - not another claim of a "hidden agenda". :bleeding:
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derspiess

#866
January 15, 2013, 03:49:18 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2013, 03:28:13 PM
Right, he waited his entire first administration and all the mass shootings during it to finally spring his "anti-gun agenda" on us. 

Whether or not it's been a huge priority for Obama himself, his proposals tomorrow will undoubtedly contain items from the Dem anti-gun faction's wish list.  Can we at least agree upon that?  Anyway when he announces his proposals tomorrow they will become his anti-gun agenda.

QuoteMan, you've officially drank the La Pierre Kool-Aid.    :lol:

Really?  That's what put me over the edge in your book?  Okay :D
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

derspiess

#867
January 15, 2013, 03:50:39 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 15, 2013, 03:43:29 PM
Good grief - not another claim of a "hidden agenda". :bleeding:

So you think politicians always leave their cards out on the table for everyone to see? 
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Razgovory

#868
January 15, 2013, 03:53:32 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2013, 03:50:39 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 15, 2013, 03:43:29 PM
Good grief - not another claim of a "hidden agenda". :bleeding:

So you think politicians always leave their cards out on the table for everyone to see?

I'm sure the FEMA death camps are just sitting part of plan "B"
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derspiess

#869
January 15, 2013, 03:55:50 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 15, 2013, 03:53:32 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2013, 03:50:39 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 15, 2013, 03:43:29 PM
Good grief - not another claim of a "hidden agenda". :bleeding:

So you think politicians always leave their cards out on the table for everyone to see?

I'm sure the FEMA death camps are just sitting part of plan "B"

:yawn:  Shouldn't you be mining old threads in hopes of digging up ammo to use against me?
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall
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