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[Neil]

The whole insurance thing is really a killer.  Obama should have given you socialized medicine.

[dps]

Maybe we ought to look at cutting back over-generous unemployment compensation.  A receiving clerk making $45 grand a year?  Shit, no wonder they went bankrupt.

So unemployment compensation should be kept below the poverty level?  Nice guy.

If the guy's single, $25,000/yr is no where near "below the poverty level".  Poverty level for a single person is somewhere around $12,000.

And whether it's "nice" or not, yeah, if you can make more on unemployment than you can working, that's a disincentive that needs to be fixed.

[DGuller]

Who's getting $25,000 a year in unemployment instead of a job that pays less?

[Razgovory]

Who's getting $25,000 a year in unemployment instead of a job that pays less?

No clue.  Not me.

[dps]

Who's getting $25,000 a year in unemployment instead of a job that pays less?

According to what CdM posted, some guy named Mike Hummel.

[Admiral Yi]

The maximum benefit in California is around $670/week.  A dude in Kansas is making nowhere near that.  I imagine it's comparable to Iowa, which has a max benefit of $365/week (more if you're married and/or have kids).

[Razgovory]

The maximum benefit in California is around $670/week.  A dude in Kansas is making nowhere near that.  I imagine it's comparable to Iowa, which has a max benefit of $365/week (more if you're married and/or have kids).

Man I get less then that a month.

[dps]

Well, I said that taking a paycut should be preferable to losing you job (at least in the current job market), and then CdM posted where this guy said that he'd get more money on unemployment than taking a paycut to $25,000/yr.  If he doesn't stand to make more on unemployment, then my original point stands.  If he does, then my point about unemployment compensation being too generous stands.

[CountDeMoney]

If the guy's single, $25,000/yr is no where near "below the poverty level".  Poverty level for a single person is somewhere around $12,000.

2012 Kansas Poverty Level Guidelines

Number In Family   Maximum Annual Income
1                          $16,755
2                          $22,695
3                          $28,635
4                          $34,575

He stated he's got a mortgage payment, so for shits and giggles, let's say he's married with an infant child.   Sell the house, right?  Wife has to nurse the baby?  Fuck her, wear a papoose. 
Don't strike, though.  That would be wrong.

And whether it's "nice" or not, yeah, if you can make more on unemployment than you can working, that's a disincentive that needs to be fixed.

Naturally.  Your company cuts your pay from 48K to $21K in 8 years, to the point that it's worse than unemployment?  And it's unemployment that's the problem?

I hope your moral compass points you away from puppies and handicapped children.

[Neil]

If your company cuts your pay from 48k to 21k, you should strike, put them out of business, and then get a real job.  Either that, or just get a real job.

[PDH]

If you don't like your job, you don't strike. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed.

[garbon]

[Grey Fox]

Twinkies will live on in Canada, Long live Twinkies!

[Maximus]

I had lunch with my friend today. He said most of the BCTGM members were furious with union leadership. Only about a third of them at his plant had actually gone on strike and there had been mass membership withdrawals over the past few weeks. The Teamsters are also pretty steamed about not having been told ahead of time about the strike that has now cost them their jobs as well.

It says something when the Teamsters is the most responsible organization in the picture.

[derspiess]

It says something when the Teamsters is the most responsible organization in the picture.