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Started by viper37, November 13, 2012, 12:00:39 PM

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Valmy

#15
November 13, 2012, 02:57:13 PM
Quote from: mongers on November 13, 2012, 02:43:39 PM
This is annoying because one of those books I had as a kid about useless facts, I'm sure said something about Texas having the right to secede by treaty or turn itself into up to 7 separate states within the USA.   :(

The crazy nutters from the Republic of Texas took the US to court...in the UN or something some international court...and lost a few years back I believe.  No State has the right to secede.  Once you join you are in.  Sorry Kingdom of Hawaii and Republic of Lakota people.
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viper37

#16
November 13, 2012, 03:03:35 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 13, 2012, 12:07:40 PM
Nothing is going to happen.  A couple internet dudes clicking a link is not significant in any way.
wich is what I said by "Unlikely to happen".  I should have said "won't happen".  I am only interested in knowing how that would procede for a State to leave the union.  It can't unilateraly withdraw.  Wich means there must be negociations.  In a fictionnal US, how would that happen?
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#17
November 13, 2012, 03:10:41 PM
What kind of dance?
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Valmy

#18
November 13, 2012, 04:54:04 PM
Quote from: viper37 on November 13, 2012, 03:03:35 PM
In a fictionnal US, how would that happen?

Well our only model so far is you have a vote on it and if it passes you form an armed mob and seize all Federal Property.  If it doesn't pass you wait a bit, then march on the State Capitol and the tear down the US flag and vote again.  I am not sure how negotiations would go.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

viper37

#19
November 13, 2012, 07:04:53 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 13, 2012, 04:54:04 PM
Quote from: viper37 on November 13, 2012, 03:03:35 PM
In a fictionnal US, how would that happen?

Well our only model so far is you have a vote on it and if it passes you form an armed mob and seize all Federal Property.  If it doesn't pass you wait a bit, then march on the State Capitol and the tear down the US flag and vote again.  I am not sure how negotiations would go.
I guess it would be treated like any kind of modification to the Constitution, no?
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Razgovory

#20
November 13, 2012, 07:09:32 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 13, 2012, 04:54:04 PM
Quote from: viper37 on November 13, 2012, 03:03:35 PM
In a fictionnal US, how would that happen?

Well our only model so far is you have a vote on it and if it passes you form an armed mob and seize all Federal Property.  If it doesn't pass you wait a bit, then march on the State Capitol and the tear down the US flag and vote again.  I am not sure how negotiations would go.

General Lyon shoots your ass in the street.  Then you either flee to Mexico or he hangs you.  That's how the negotiations would go.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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PDH

#21
November 13, 2012, 07:59:13 PM
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Sheilbh

#22
November 14, 2012, 01:15:44 AM
I think the only states that would enjoy Texan secession more are the other 49 states who'd have the opportunity to beat Texas down :lol:
Let's bomb Russia!

Razgovory

#23
November 14, 2012, 01:23:00 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 14, 2012, 01:15:44 AM
I think the only states that would enjoy Texan secession more are the other 49 states who'd have the opportunity to beat Texas down :lol:

This is probably true. :lol:  Texans can be insufferable.  We should spare Austin.  I hear it has a good music scene and I think Valmy lives there.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Siege

#24
November 14, 2012, 01:33:50 AM
I like Texans.


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#25
November 14, 2012, 07:42:05 AM
They have some good food.
PDH!

dps

#26
November 14, 2012, 09:54:06 AM
Quote from: viper37 on November 13, 2012, 03:03:35 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 13, 2012, 12:07:40 PM
Nothing is going to happen.  A couple internet dudes clicking a link is not significant in any way.
wich is what I said by "Unlikely to happen".  I should have said "won't happen".  I am only interested in knowing how that would procede for a State to leave the union.  It can't unilateraly withdraw.  Wich means there must be negociations.  In a fictionnal US, how would that happen?

No, it wouldn't require negotiations.  It would require winning a civil war.  We've sort of already established that.

Valmy

#27
November 14, 2012, 09:58:09 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 14, 2012, 01:23:00 AM
This is probably true. :lol:  Texans can be insufferable.  We should spare Austin.  I hear it has a good music scene and I think Valmy lives there.

Yeah I have not checked the locations of the people signing this petition but I bet alot of them are signing it just for that reason.

And frankly if they do secede I hope Austin gets to remain behind.  We should be our own state.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

garbon

#28
November 14, 2012, 10:08:31 AM
Quote from: Valmy on November 14, 2012, 09:58:09 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 14, 2012, 01:23:00 AM
This is probably true. :lol:  Texans can be insufferable.  We should spare Austin.  I hear it has a good music scene and I think Valmy lives there.

Yeah I have not checked the locations of the people signing this petition but I bet alot of them are signing it just for that reason.

And frankly if they do secede I hope Austin gets to remain behind.  We should be our own state.

So you like microstates but not micronations?
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#29
November 14, 2012, 10:19:07 AM
Probably be bigger than Rhode Island.
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