Dreadnought Day

[Fireblade]

Another attack at anchor.  The aircraft seems to be only a useful weapon against a warship that isn't underway, or perhaps if you have massive numbers of aircraft.  Either way, the dreadnought is probably a more efficient use of materiel.

[Neil]

Destroyed by dreadnoughts.  Sunk by torpedoes fired from a treaty cruiser.

[Viking]

USS Arizona 30,000 tons.
Nakajima Kate 2,5 tons.

One wonders if the Arizona is worth 1,200 torpedo bombers?

[Neil]

USS Arizona 30,000 tons.
Nakajima Kate 2,5 tons.

One wonders if the Arizona is worth 1,200 torpedo bombers?

Now take the carriers into account.

[Razgovory]

I think a better argument would be the Yamato.

[Viking]

I think a better argument would be the Yamato.

Sunk by air attack, in open water:
HMS Repulse, sunk by Japanese aircraft off Malaya, December 10 1941 with loss of 436 crew.

HMS Prince of Wales, sunk by Japanese aircraft off Malaya, December 10 1941 with loss of 327 crew.

Italian battleship Roma, sunk by Luftwaffe Fritz-X glider bombs on September 9, 1943 with loss of 1,353 crew.

INS Hiei, sunk by US Navy and USAF aircraft off of Guadalcanal, November 13, 1942 with loss of 188 crew.

INS Musashi, sunk by US Navy aircraft during the Battle of Leyte Gulf on October 24, 1944 with loss of over 1,000 crew.

INS Yamato, sunk by US air attacks off of Okinawa April 7, 1945 with loss of 2,475 men.

Greek battleship Kilkis, sunk by Germany Ju-87 bombers in the Salamis Channel on April 23, 1941.

Greek battleship Limnos, sunk by Germany Ju-87 bombers in the Salamis Channel on April 23, 1941.

HNLMS De Zeven Provincien was sunk by Japanese bombers off of Surabaya, February 18, 1942. Raised by the Japanese and used as a floating battery, then sunk by allied bombers in 1943.

[CountDeMoney]

HNLMS De Zeven Provincien was sunk by Japanese bombers off of Surabaya, February 18, 1942. Raised by the Japanese and used as a floating battery, then sunk by allied bombers in 1943.

That just sounds so...violating.

[Neil]

I think a better argument would be the Yamato.

Overwhelming attack from a numerically superior foe in an attack that was designed to fail?  What weapons system in the world could survive in those circumstances?

[Razgovory]

I think a better argument would be the Yamato.

Overwhelming attack from a numerically superior foe in an attack that was designed to fail?  What weapons system in the world could survive in those circumstances?

A superior one.

[CountDeMoney]

Overwhelming attack from a numerically superior foe in an attack that was designed to fail?  What weapons system in the world could survive in those circumstances?

Islam.

[Neil]

I think a better argument would be the Yamato.

Sunk by air attack, in open water:
HMS Repulse, sunk by Japanese aircraft off Malaya, December 10 1941 with loss of 436 crew.

HMS Prince of Wales, sunk by Japanese aircraft off Malaya, December 10 1941 with loss of 327 crew.

Italian battleship Roma, sunk by Luftwaffe Fritz-X glider bombs on September 9, 1943 with loss of 1,353 crew.

INS Hiei, sunk by US Navy and USAF aircraft off of Guadalcanal, November 13, 1942 with loss of 188 crew.

INS Musashi, sunk by US Navy aircraft during the Battle of Leyte Gulf on October 24, 1944 with loss of over 1,000 crew.

INS Yamato, sunk by US air attacks off of Okinawa April 7, 1945 with loss of 2,475 men.

Greek battleship Kilkis, sunk by Germany Ju-87 bombers in the Salamis Channel on April 23, 1941.

Greek battleship Limnos, sunk by Germany Ju-87 bombers in the Salamis Channel on April 23, 1941.

HNLMS De Zeven Provincien was sunk by Japanese bombers off of Surabaya, February 18, 1942. Raised by the Japanese and used as a floating battery, then sunk by allied bombers in 1943.

Repulse, the Greeks and De Zeven Provincien were not dreadnought battleships.  Yamato, Musashi and Prince of Wales were assaulted by overwhelming numbers with minimal support.  Roma was Italian and in poor condition due to the surrender and due to being Italian.  Hiei was a slowly steaming target due to the crippling damage it had taken in a gunfight, and even then it took continuous air attacks all day to sink her.

[Neil]

I think a better argument would be the Yamato.

Overwhelming attack from a numerically superior foe in an attack that was designed to fail?  What weapons system in the world could survive in those circumstances?

A superior one.

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[garbon]

I think a better argument would be the Yamato.

Overwhelming attack from a numerically superior foe in an attack that was designed to fail?  What weapons system in the world could survive in those circumstances?

A superior one.

Stricken as unresponsive.

I thought we opted for non-responsive.

[Neil]

Overwhelming attack from a numerically superior foe in an attack that was designed to fail?  What weapons system in the world could survive in those circumstances?

Islam.

Not a weapons system.

[Neil]

I think a better argument would be the Yamato.

Overwhelming attack from a numerically superior foe in an attack that was designed to fail?  What weapons system in the world could survive in those circumstances?

A superior one.

Stricken as unresponsive.

I thought we opted for non-responsive.

Probably a better wording in this situation, yes.