Debate III, the one just for Languish: US Foreign Policy

Started by CountDeMoney, October 22, 2012, 06:27:28 AM

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MadImmortalMan

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 23, 2012, 10:52:47 AM
Romney made it seem there wasnt much difference between them on foriegn policy negating his apparent weakness going into the debate.  On top of that it was boring to watch.

I give the strategic victory to Romney.   Obama probably didnt score enough points to make up the ground he lost in the first debate.

Maybe. Romney was just playing safe. He didn't lose his cool. He didn't make any big fuckups. The Obama campaign clearly still thought they had to be in attack mode. Obama was a complete spaz compared to his normal personality. There was really no substance in the whole thing, just the two of them trying to give their planned impression.

My overall "impression" was one of Obama crashing against Romney like waves at the beach hitting the rocks. How much got eroded I dunno. That's not the stuff I look for anyway. No substance means I'm bored.
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derspiess

Quote from: Zanza on October 23, 2012, 12:07:24 PM
From what I can tell from the reports, the Eurozone crisis wasn't mentioned. You have to wonder whether e.g. the civil war in Syria or the economic depression in Europe is more relevant to American foreign policy interests.

Eurozone hasn't been as violent, so it hasn't held our attention as much :P
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celedhring

Quote from: derspiess on October 23, 2012, 12:13:04 PM
Quote from: Zanza on October 23, 2012, 12:07:24 PM
From what I can tell from the reports, the Eurozone crisis wasn't mentioned. You have to wonder whether e.g. the civil war in Syria or the economic depression in Europe is more relevant to American foreign policy interests.

Eurozone hasn't been as violent, so it hasn't held our attention as much :P

Just wait, it takes a while to get used to exterminating ourselves again.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Zanza on October 23, 2012, 12:07:24 PM
From what I can tell from the reports, the Eurozone crisis wasn't mentioned. You have to wonder whether e.g. the civil war in Syria or the economic depression in Europe is more relevant to American foreign policy interests.

On the contrary;  Romney said we're on our way to becoming Greece on three separate occasions.  :P

But yeah, not addressing the Euro issues was a big omission, but this was for an American electorate, one they wanted to keep awake.  European austerity crises are no fun,  bombing the shit out of dune coons is.

MadImmortalMan

The Euros are keeping it quiet for now. Spain didn't get the memo though.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

celedhring

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 23, 2012, 12:18:24 PM
The Euros are keeping it quiet for now. Spain didn't get the memo though.

We are quite special. We always do our wars just for ourselves, and then refuse to join the big ones with everybody else.

Zanza


Neil

Quote from: Zanza on October 23, 2012, 12:20:30 PM
That's just the lull before the storm. ;)
Well, that and the fact that they have to keep a lid on anything that could throw off Obama winning the election, like an international economic meltdown.
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Viking

Quote from: PDH on October 23, 2012, 12:39:30 PM
Spain is Germany's outlet to the sea.

I thought Hamburg was Germany's outlet to the sea?
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It seems that Obama campaign's decision to buy ads and send Jill Biden to Minnesota was justified. Latest poll shows Romney trailing in Minnesota by only 5 points.

http://race42012.com/2012/10/23/poll-watch-rasmussen-minnesota-2012-presidential-survey/

merithyn

Nate Silver on 538 still has Obama at a 70% chance of winning the election. Nate also says that Ohio is pretty much the tipping state in this election at this stage of the game. Right now, most polls have Ohio going for Obama, so DGuller might be winning after all.

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