Debate III, the one just for Languish: US Foreign Policy

Started by CountDeMoney, October 22, 2012, 06:27:28 AM

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Martinus

Quote from: Viking on October 22, 2012, 09:35:07 PM
When romney declared his love for teachers I had a flashback to "I love big bird..." and worried about his comments on teachers unions.

He also loves his dog and his wife.

Martinus

Quote from: Razgovory on October 22, 2012, 11:56:32 PM
Uh, is that gay pornography?

I sure hope so. He probably gets to be fucked by all the black guys.

Brazen

I for one am enjoying the unique opportunity to write about horses and bayonets in my column.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Brazen on October 23, 2012, 03:58:10 AM
I for one am enjoying the unique opportunity to write about horses and bayonets in my column.

Please do, dear.  But I don't think you'll be the only writer taking this unique opportunity this morning.

Viking

Quote from: Martinus on October 23, 2012, 01:44:29 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 22, 2012, 11:56:32 PM
Uh, is that gay pornography?

I sure hope so. He probably gets to be fucked by all the black guys.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0447371/
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Plot Keywords: Sex | Hardcore | Group Sex | Interracial | Homosexual
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: DGuller on October 22, 2012, 10:05:57 PM
Romney doesn't get the same points in my book for repeating what Obama said if he in the same response bashes Obama.  I don't see where "Mitt achieved his goal of looking presidential" argument is coming from.  Mitt always looked presidential, but he isn't looking any more presidential as a result of this debate.

He didn't come off as clinically insane.  That was the mission of the night.

Fireblade

The 4 Bs of this Presidential campaign: Big Bird, Binders, and Bayonets.

Razgovory

Quote from: Viking on October 23, 2012, 06:13:48 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 23, 2012, 01:44:29 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 22, 2012, 11:56:32 PM
Uh, is that gay pornography?

I sure hope so. He probably gets to be fucked by all the black guys.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0447371/
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Plot Keywords: Sex | Hardcore | Group Sex | Interracial | Homosexual

Well, that answers that.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Kleves

I wonder if Romney's relative passivity was designed to appeal to female voters. A couple of times he said nonsense like "attacking me isn't a plan to help this nation" or whatever (well, no, Mitt, but if it keeps some stupid ass idea of yours from being implemented, then that helps America), which I thought made him look like he didn't have a good retort for Obama's criticism, but women might eat that shit up.

Also, I wonder if Mitt's plan was to tack close to Obama, so that Obama cannot use his advantage in foreign policy (hard to go after the other guy's plan as dangerous/misguided/reckless when its exactly the same as yours), which forces the conversation back to the economy.
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

Josephus

Oh, I think you're right on all counts Kleves. I think Mittens was deliberatley playing it a bit passive for the reasons you said. And there's no point in arguing on the fine points of foreign policy when they have very little to disagree about. Romney kept trying to bring it back to the economy cause that's where his strength is.
Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

CountDeMoney

He was playing passive because, as his campaign said afterwards, he didn't want to leave a major gaffe out there for the electorate to chew on for two weeks, and to appear nice and centrist.
His goal wasn't to feed his base this time around, it was to show indies that he's not crazy and there would be no major ideological shifts, that there would be a certain sense of continuity of policy.

And once again, he made complete and total reversals on policies he's campaigned on in the middle of the debate like Afghanistan and China, completely on the fly. 

The man's a shameless chameleon without a single conviction in his body with the exception of his little cult hobbies, an incredibly empty suit.  At least Dubya, for good or ill, had his convictions and consistently believed in them, even if I didn't.  But this guy?  Oh, man.  No wonder it's so difficult to criticize his policies, he makes them up as he goes along, a different angle each day.

11B4V

Quote from: Neil on October 22, 2012, 10:24:15 PM
Wait, so Obama was shit-talking battleships? :mad:

Well, that excerpt wasn't so bad.  It seems that CNN feels that it'll hurt Obama in Virginia though.

Battleships....how obsolete.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

crazy canuck

Romney made it seem there wasnt much difference between them on foriegn policy negating his apparent weakness going into the debate.  On top of that it was boring to watch.

I give the strategic victory to Romney.   Obama probably didnt score enough points to make up the ground he lost in the first debate.

derspiess

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 23, 2012, 10:52:47 AM
Romney made it seem there wasnt much difference between them on foriegn policy negating his apparent weakness going into the debate.  On top of that it was boring to watch.

I give the strategic victory to Romney.   Obama probably didnt score enough points to make up the ground he lost in the first debate.

I didn't watch the debate, but that's the general impression I'm getting.  Well, that and some odd whining that Romney doesn't disagree enough with Obama on foreign policy.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Zanza

From what I can tell from the reports, the Eurozone crisis wasn't mentioned. You have to wonder whether e.g. the civil war in Syria or the economic depression in Europe is more relevant to American foreign policy interests.