Texas Schools Are Forcing Kids To Wear RFID Chips. Is That a Privacy Invasion?

[Martinus]

Is this worse than being required to carry ID at all time, unlike civilised parts of the world?

Definitely. You use a regular ID to vote, pay with a credit card, act as a witness in a courthouse and such. You might even be asked to identify yourself by a police officer (I've never been).

But it cannot be tracked. It can't be used to build a profile.

But as others pointed out, the question is whether inefficiency of the current system is one of its fundamental qualities or is it just a secondary quality that does not effect the assessment of the system vis-a-vis its compliance with stuff like human rights and liberties.

I mean under the current system, you could imagine the state hiring millions of cops to identify everyone every 100 metres or so, and amass that data to effectively be able to track anyone anywhere. The only reason we don't do it is that it would be impossible or at least nightmarishly ineffective.

[Martinus]

And I already spoke to that to. I'm finding it hard to believe that there would be absolutely no mercy for someone who lost their cord and our accidentally damaged theirs - things that would be likely to happen with children.

Fine, we can do it the Harvard University way:  first lost badge in a year is free, 2nd replacement badge in a calendar year is $20, and each subsequent one after that is more, more, and more.

Except this are not college students. They haven't even managed the level of (im)maturity of your Havard undergrad.

Besides the fact that lost can also cover left at home, left on bus, left in locker, etc.  I had non-chipped ID badges during my last years of high school and they were a joke as you could always find someone to take pity on you.

Actually pretty similar in college too with the same pity story.

I don't see how any of this contradicts what CdM said. Children lose stuff all the time - that does not mean that parents are not asked to pay for it.

[garbon]

And I already spoke to that to. I'm finding it hard to believe that there would be absolutely no mercy for someone who lost their cord and our accidentally damaged theirs - things that would be likely to happen with children.

Fine, we can do it the Harvard University way:  first lost badge in a year is free, 2nd replacement badge in a calendar year is $20, and each subsequent one after that is more, more, and more.

Except this are not college students. They haven't even managed the level of (im)maturity of your Havard undergrad.

Besides the fact that lost can also cover left at home, left on bus, left in locker, etc.  I had non-chipped ID badges during my last years of high school and they were a joke as you could always find someone to take pity on you.

Actually pretty similar in college too with the same pity story.

I don't see how any of this contradicts what CdM said. Children lose stuff all the time - that does not mean that parents are not asked to pay for it.

In pretty much none of the cases I listed did anyone pay for anything.

[The Minsky Moment]

Yes, but that would be from a god we are equally sure does not exist. I am not a christian and neither are you. I deny the holy spirit, so do you. When it comes to Gods who send people to hell we are equally Atheist , though technically I am less of one since I do not go that one step further and assert that some other Religion is true.

Hell I agree seems a bit sketchy.
But the Old Testament is very big on smiting of blasphemers and sinners, and unless Abraham is hired as defense counsel, collateral damage can be quite significant.

[Viking]

Yes, but that would be from a god we are equally sure does not exist. I am not a christian and neither are you. I deny the holy spirit, so do you. When it comes to Gods who send people to hell we are equally Atheist , though technically I am less of one since I do not go that one step further and assert that some other Religion is true.

Hell I agree seems a bit sketchy.
But the Old Testament is very big on smiting of blasphemers and sinners, and unless Abraham is hired as defense counsel, collateral damage can be quite significant.

Maybe we read different OTs. Mine doesn't have much smiting by god of individual blasphemers and sinners. He commands the israelites to smite the blasphemers and sinners. God didn't do individual sinners, he did cities and planets. I'm pretty sure that I will not be in the same place as the righteous that follow the command to smite. I'm pretty sure my marginal amount of sinning and blaspheming is not the straw that breaks the deity's back and wipes out mankind or my city. The only individuals that god took time out of his busy schedule to fuck with were the faithful job, who's life he fucked up (not to mention his anonymous wife and kids) and the faithful abraham, who suffered the worst april fools joke in history.

So, not I'm not worried.

[merithyn]

And I already spoke to that to. I'm finding it hard to believe that there would be absolutely no mercy for someone who lost their cord and our accidentally damaged theirs - things that would be likely to happen with children.

Fine, we can do it the Harvard University way:  first lost badge in a year is free, 2nd replacement badge in a calendar year is $20, and each subsequent one after that is more, more, and more.

This is how I did it at the middle school I worked at. First replacement: Free. Second: $1. Third: $3. Fourth and all others: $5. To a middle schooler, that's a lot of money.

[Razgovory]

Yes, but that would be from a god we are equally sure does not exist. I am not a christian and neither are you. I deny the holy spirit, so do you. When it comes to Gods who send people to hell we are equally Atheist , though technically I am less of one since I do not go that one step further and assert that some other Religion is true.

Hell I agree seems a bit sketchy.
But the Old Testament is very big on smiting of blasphemers and sinners, and unless Abraham is hired as defense counsel, collateral damage can be quite significant.

I wouldn't want to stand next to him for the simple reason that he might get a very mortal smiting if he is harps on religion that way in person.

[Viking]

Yes, but that would be from a god we are equally sure does not exist. I am not a christian and neither are you. I deny the holy spirit, so do you. When it comes to Gods who send people to hell we are equally Atheist , though technically I am less of one since I do not go that one step further and assert that some other Religion is true.

Hell I agree seems a bit sketchy.
But the Old Testament is very big on smiting of blasphemers and sinners, and unless Abraham is hired as defense counsel, collateral damage can be quite significant.

I wouldn't want to stand next to him for the simple reason that he might get a very mortal smiting if he is harps on religion that way in person.

Yeah, only a true believer would hurt somebody for insulting religion.

[Eddie Teach]

I wouldn't want to stand next to him because he'd make me look short.

[Viking]

I wouldn't want to stand next to him because he'd make me look short.

I make everybody look short.

[DontSayBanana]

On the flip side of the coin, you could stand next to me and look tall.

[The Brain]

I don't stand next to other people.

[Razgovory]

Yeah, only a true believer would hurt somebody for insulting religion.

Lecturing someone about how you don't respect them is a good way to get punched in the chops.  There is a reason why you don't discuss religion or politics in polite society.

[Viking]

Yeah, only a true believer would hurt somebody for insulting religion.

Lecturing someone about how you don't respect them is a good way to get punched in the chops.  There is a reason why you don't discuss religion or politics in polite society.

I'm not the one threatening with violence.

[Razgovory]

And?