The Great Debate Megathread! Black Lincoln versus whiter, richer Douglas!

[CountDeMoney]

On top of that, I think Romney is a superb manager who can get difficult things done and that is what the country needs right now.

Thing is, that's what concerns me about him.

I don't think the CEO model works well in the White House:  it's an environment where basic, fundamental convictions work the most in a singular cohesive policy (Dubya), not surrounding yourself with a variety of choices and sitting back, choosing among them;  it leads to inconsistency, infighting and messy, often confused policy (Reagan's first term).

If this were 1994 or even 2003, I may very well have liked him.  Alas, I believe he's sold his soul.  And had it baptized with a bunch of dead Jews.

[garbon]

Meanwhile what we've gotten from Obama...

[CountDeMoney]

Meanwhile what we've gotten from Obama...

General Motors alive, Bin Laden dead.

[Eddie Teach]

Meanwhile what we've gotten from Obama...

Osama dead, DADT removed, and a general reluctance to destroy the government's revenue streams? Seems that'll have to do.

[Admiral Yi]

General Motors alive

And it only cost $24 billion and the elimination of creditor legal rights.

[lustindarkness]

Meanwhile what we've gotten from Obama...

General Motors alive, Bin Laden dead.

I wonder if saving GM was a good thing in the long run? And the credit for Bin Laden goes to the CIA and SEALs.

[Razgovory]

Meanwhile what we've gotten from Obama...

General Motors alive, Bin Laden dead.

I wonder if saving GM was a good thing in the long run? And the credit for Bin Laden goes to the CIA and SEALs.

I guess that means they get the blame for not finding him for ten years.

[mongers]

Funny how Obama actually posited in the 2008 debate, the scenario of having to violate Pakistan sovereignty to go get Bin Laden; it's almost like he knew where he was.   

[CountDeMoney]

General Motors alive

And it only cost $24 billion and the elimination of creditor legal rights.

And the alternative was Ford as last man standing? No thanks.

[CountDeMoney]

Funny how Obama actually posited in the 2008 debate, the scenario of having to violate Pakistan sovereignty to go get Bin Laden; it's almost like he knew where he was.   

You know how those Muslims communicate telepathically.  Obama is: MALCOLM X-MEN.

[Razgovory]

 

[merithyn]

derspeiss, I know you're in full-on Republican mode while you're here (and you pretty much have to be defensive around here), but I have a question for you. As a Romney supporter, are you happy with how he's handled himself during this election cycle? In particular, how he's represented his ideas and how he's handled the pressure over the past year or so.

How he's represented his ideas?  Up until this week, not too happy about it.  As I mentioned when I disagreed with Hans a few months ago, Romney absolutely has to make a clear case for himself.  The way presidential elections go these days, voters seem less willing to dump incumbents (regardless of how bad the first 4 years were) unless the challenger presents clear, strong arguments.  My take is that he just started to make his case in the first debate.  I hope he can build on that momentum.

I think he did a stellar job handling pressure in the primaries, and I think that experience made him a stronger candidate in the general election.  I definitely think the primaries helped sharpen him for Wednesday's debate, for example.

I wish he hadn't ducked the "Romneycare" attacks during the primaries.  If I were him I'd tout it as an experiment that was worth trying in the context of a fairly liberal northeastern state and that one of the great things about our federal system is that you can try out such things at the state level to either prove or disprove their worthiness for other states to adopt.  In a sense his strategy worked in that he eventually won the primary, but I think he could have done a better job taking that issue away from his primary opponents.

Whether he wins or loses, I think to this point he's run a much better campaign than McCain did.

I'm not asking for the talking points that I can find on the typical Conservative website/paper/social site. You're an intelligent man. I'd really like to know your personal likes and dislikes of the man. I'd like to know if you're supporting him because he's the lesser of two evils, in your opinion, or if you're supporting him because you honestly think that he'll make a good (or great) president. (I know that there are plenty of Obama supporters who believe that Obama is the lesser of two evils rather than because he's going to be a great president in round two. I know few Republicans who are willing to say one way or another how they feel about Romney without resorting to Fox News talking points. I really want to know.)

For the record, I honestly don't feel like I know enough about what Romney really wants to do to have an opinion on him. What I do know isn't pleasant, but I know that it's a very small part of the picture and I'd like to know more.

I'm ashamed to say that one of my main reasons for opposing Romney in 2008 was the Mormon thing.  Once the dust settled from the 2008 election I came to around to the opinion that he would have been a better candidate against Obama and a much better president for the time than either Obama or McCain.

At his heart I think Romney is pretty much right in the center of the GOP.  I'm a bit to the right of him on many things.  I don't think he's another Reagan.  But he's way closer to my views than Obama is.  On top of that, I think Romney is a superb manager who can get difficult things done and that is what the country needs right now.

Thank you. That is actually exactly what I wanted to know. You've actually made a compelling case for him, and I appreciate your insight.

[jimmy olsen]

 

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/05/maher_rips_obamas_debate_performance_looked_like_he_took_my_million_and_spent_it_all_on_weed.html

[Eddie Teach]

You've actually made a compelling case for him,

Compelling? I do not think it means what you think it means.

[derspiess]

Thank you. That is actually exactly what I wanted to know. You've actually made a compelling case for him, and I appreciate your insight.

It was more or less my standard stream of consciousness type of post, but thanks anyway