The Empire Strikes Back: 1998 Obama Video: ZOMG REDISTRIBUTION!!!1111onesy

[merithyn]

I don't see southerners and Midwesterners siding with liberul faggits.

Iowa usually goes Dem. Just sayin'.

[derspiess]

Yeah, probably, but that was derspiess.  How was I to know that this one particular right wing stupidity was not actually heartfelt by him?

[dps]

I don't see southerners and Midwesterners siding with liberul faggits.

Iowa usually goes Dem. Just sayin'.

Well, heck yeah--there's still enough small-government types left in the Republican Party that want to end farm subsidies.

[grumbler]

How was I to know that this one particular right wing stupidity was not actually heartfelt by him?

I find it impossible to believe that he isn't always posting with tongue in cheek.  No one with a brain could actually believe most of the things he claims to believe.  When he claims that Romney or Ryan have a speck of credibility, for instance, he surely doesn't believe it.  Not, I would note in the spirit of honesty, that Obama or Biden are much better.

[merithyn]

I don't see southerners and Midwesterners siding with liberul faggits.

Iowa usually goes Dem. Just sayin'.

Well, heck yeah--there's still enough small-government types left in the Republican Party that want to end farm subsidies.

Please to esplain Kansas, Oklahoma, Indiana, and Nebraska then. 

[dps]

I don't see southerners and Midwesterners siding with liberul faggits.

Iowa usually goes Dem. Just sayin'.

Well, heck yeah--there's still enough small-government types left in the Republican Party that want to end farm subsidies.

Please to esplain Kansas, Oklahoma, Indiana, and Nebraska then. 

Kansas and Nebraska vote Republican for the same reason South Carolina and Georgia voted Democratic in the 1920's--they're still fighting the Civil War in their minds.

Oklahoma and Indiana--uhm, must be an Indian thing.

[Eddie Teach]

Please to esplain Kansas, Oklahoma, Indiana, and Nebraska then. 

More bible thumpers.

Anyway, I doubt the majority of farmers vote Democrat, subsidies or not. Though there is probably a greater tendency for them to do so than other rural business owners.

[ulmont]

Anyway, I doubt the majority of farmers vote Democrat, subsidies or not. Though there is probably a greater tendency for them to do so than other rural business owners.

Yeah, I tend to agree, although I can't find any relevant links right now.

[dps]

Anyway, I doubt the majority of farmers vote Democrat, subsidies or not. Though there is probably a greater tendency for them to do so than other rural business owners.

Well, to be serious about this for a minute, for the most part farm subsidies aren't going to be an issue in farm country, because no one who wants to be a credible candidate there is going to be able to advocate eliminating or even reducing them, so in a local race, there won't really be any difference in either party's candidate's position on the issue.

[ulmont]

Anyway, I doubt the majority of farmers vote Democrat, subsidies or not. Though there is probably a greater tendency for them to do so than other rural business owners.

Yeah, I tend to agree, although I can't find any relevant links right now.

Not the best effort, but here's one relevant link.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26920037@N06/2933924214/lightbox/

[Razgovory]

Lying on your accounts and not paying taxes is not socialism at all. Quite the opposite.

If we look to the truly socialist countries however; Scandinavia, Germany.....they're doing best.

Which leads to the conclusion that socialism is suitable for only a small number of countries in the world, relying as it does on social cohesion, self-discipline, and a sense of responsibility that only a few countries' populations possess.

That's a strange conclusion to come to.

[MadImmortalMan]

Farmers are 2% of the population. How do they have so much political pull?

[merithyn]

Farmers are 2% of the population. How do they have so much political pull?

They vote.

[Admiral Yi]

They wield disproportionate influence in underpopulated farm states and hence the Senate.

[dps]

Farmers are 2% of the population. How do they have so much political pull?

It's because in many rural areas of the midwest and plains states, they're the main social group, and they tend to vote as a bloc (or at least, they are perceived in that manner).