The Empire Strikes Back: 1998 Obama Video: ZOMG REDISTRIBUTION!!!1111onesy

Started by CountDeMoney, September 19, 2012, 06:48:05 PM

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Razgovory

Is a child living in a housing project proof of the failure of said child to get a good paying job?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on September 20, 2012, 06:14:08 PM
Is a child living in a housing project proof of the failure of said child to get a good paying job?

Pick whatever answer you'd like to on my behalf, then go on from there.  I'm curious where you're trying to take this.

Razgovory

You said this.
QuoteIf that were true then the continuation of that person in his low income job would be proof of the failure of the subsidy to achieve its stated objective.  Or alternatively, there might be requirements attached to the subsidy involving a good faith effort to take advantage of that "fair shot" which the subsidies provide.  Neither of those is true.  What's true is that residence in a social democratic state entitles a person to a minimum standard of living, regardless of whether they take a fair shot at a good paying job or not.

However, a child might be living in subsidized housing, and neither of your options (the continuation of the child living in subsidized housing or some sort of requirement that of a good faith effort on the part of the kid), doesn't make sense in that context.  However, a child that lives in cruddy house or apartment has a better chance of going to school and getting a job then a kid that is say living on the street or running around the forest being raised by wolves (or what ever the rural homeless do).
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Habbaku

The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien

CountDeMoney


Habbaku

The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Habbaku on September 20, 2012, 06:45:42 PM
I have a protest vote to lodge, thank you.  :P

It'll be a bigger protest vote if you go with the POTUS.  Imma jus' sayin'.  :lol:

Razgovory

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 20, 2012, 06:47:30 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 20, 2012, 06:45:42 PM
I have a protest vote to lodge, thank you.  :P

It'll be a bigger protest vote if you go with the POTUS.  Imma jus' sayin'.  :lol:

I'll be happy if he just votes for the libertarian.  Though it's not going to matter.  Georgia ain't going to go for Obama.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Habbaku

Hence the term 'protest vote'...

Edit : Doubt I'd vote for Romney no matter what state I was in at this point, though.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien

CountDeMoney

I just hope he's got the appropriate ID for Georgia.  He's white and not elderly, so I'm assuming he does.

QuoteEleven percent of eligible voters say they lack current government-issued photo IDs, a survey on the potential impact of voter ID laws found. You live in Georgia and you're one of them. Like 66,515 other Georgians, according to a recent study from the Brennan Center for Justice, you also lack vehicle access and live more than 10 miles from an office that issues state ID.

As a registered voter who's skipped the past few elections, you decide you'll vote this year. But you spend your life working multiple jobs to provide for your family, not tuned in to a news cycle that may have told you about a voter ID law that changed the requirements.

If you were aware of the measure, you'd know that you have to get yourself to a state office during business hours to procure a photo ID in order to vote. According to the Brennan Center, these facilities are often only open part time, especially in areas with the highest concentration of people of color and in poverty. While the state does offer a free photo ID initiative, the Brennan Center points out that many of the offices provide confusing or inaccurate information about what Georgians need to do to get one.

This may be a tough task as you juggle a strenuous work schedule with other commitments -- and that's assuming you're aware of the requirement. But you're not, so you head to your voting precinct on election day with no access to an acceptable form of identification and vote with a provisional ballot. To verify that ballot, you'll have two days to present appropriate photo ID at your county registrar's office, which at this point wouldn't be doable.

Ed Anger

Being from an impotent state, I suggest you peons bid for my vote.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

CountDeMoney


Ed Anger

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 20, 2012, 07:22:04 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 20, 2012, 07:17:39 PM
Being from an impotent state, I suggest you peons bid for my vote.

Sure thing, Mr. 53%.

I don't like your attitude mister. We'll deal with you 47%'ers.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Jacob

Quote from: Ed Anger on September 20, 2012, 07:26:50 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 20, 2012, 07:22:04 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 20, 2012, 07:17:39 PM
Being from an impotent state, I suggest you peons bid for my vote.

Sure thing, Mr. 53%.

I don't like your attitude mister. We'll deal with you 47%'ers.

Don't forget that the 47%ers apparently include all active duty combat troops.