State Department: No secret plan to invade Canada

[garbon]

Like we would even need a plan

Did you miss our Languish plan/planned meetup to plunder Canada?

[Josquius]

Canada should liberate the civilized parts of the US. Screw Jesusland.

[Eddie Teach]

The "civilized" parts of the US aren't interested in leaving Jesusland.

[Malthus]

I liked Canada's plan to invade the US even more. Blitzkrieg Detroit, and hope the British come real quick.

Would anyone even notice if we flattened Detroit?

Most would think it was a civic improvement.   

Anyway, destroying Detroit would not cause anyone to come. Or even get excited.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Would anyone even notice if we flattened Detroit?

Most would think it was a civic improvement.   

Well hell, we've already started bulldozing the place.  Just helping you guys out. 

Or was that Flint?  Or both?

[Legbiter]

They'd just weaponize Celine Dion and burn down the White House. Again.

[Viking]

They'd just weaponize Celine Dion and burn down the White House. Again.

Thank god for that, I was worried that she was already pre-positioned WMD in Las Vegas.

[Josquius]

The "civilized" parts of the US aren't interested in leaving Jesusland.

Sure they are, they just don't realise it yet.

[crazy canuck]

They'd just weaponize Celine Dion and burn down the White House. Again.

Thank god for that, I was worried that she was already pre-positioned WMD in Las Vegas.

You miss the point, she is a WMD.

[grumbler]

So where can I look at our non-secret plan to invade Canada?

http://www.glasnost.de/hist/usa/1935invasion.html

In 1934, War Plan Red was amended
to authorize the immediate first use of poison gas against
Canadians and to use strategic bombing to destroy Halifax
if it could not be captured.

That article from Glasnost looks pretty bogus to me.  What is attached isn't a war plan at all.  It looks more like a mock assessment assigned to some War College students.  The fact that it is signed by a major also tends to make me think it isn't a real "war plan."

I am sure that War Plan Red (planning for war against Britain) included actions against Crimson (Canada), but I am also pretty sure that War Plan Red was not officially updated after the late 1920s.  It wouldn't surprise me to find that it was used for staff exercises and training in the 1930s.

[dps]

So where can I look at our non-secret plan to invade Canada?

http://www.glasnost.de/hist/usa/1935invasion.html

In 1934, War Plan Red was amended
to authorize the immediate first use of poison gas against
Canadians and to use strategic bombing to destroy Halifax
if it could not be captured.

That article from Glasnost looks pretty bogus to me.  What is attached isn't a war plan at all.  It looks more like a mock assessment assigned to some War College students.  The fact that it is signed by a major also tends to make me think it isn't a real "war plan."

I am sure that War Plan Red (planning for war against Britain) included actions against Crimson (Canada), but I am also pretty sure that War Plan Red was not officially updated after the late 1920s.  It wouldn't surprise me to find that it was used for staff exercises and training in the 1930s.

First, when referring to US war plans in the early part of the 20th century, it's usually a mistake to refer to "War Plan (insert color here)" as just one plan.  The US color-coded its war plans by the foreign nation in question--War Plan Orange was the plan for war with Japan, War Plan Red was the plan for war with the UK, etc.  But in most cases, there wasn't really just 1 plan, there was a series of plans that were changed over time. 

As far as War Plan Red not being updated after the 1920's, grumbler is probably right.  If it was updated in the 1930's, it was in 1930-32, because FDR suspended planning for war with the British when he took office, so there was certainly no officially adopted War Plan Red from 1935.  But I can buy that drawing up such war plans simply as a training exercise continued.

[grumbler]

First, when referring to US war plans in the early part of the 20th century, it's usually a mistake to refer to "War Plan (insert color here)" as just one plan.  The US color-coded its war plans by the foreign nation in question--War Plan Orange was the plan for war with Japan, War Plan Red was the plan for war with the UK, etc.  But in most cases, there wasn't really just 1 plan, there was a series of plans that were changed over time. 

Actually, it would have been just one plan.  The details of the plan would change, and especial the provisos of the variants of the plan would change, but there was only ever the one plan to fight Japan in the period, War Plan Orange.  The current practice of having a bunch of related plans  (OpPlan 2200 for a general war in the Atlantic, with maybe OpPlan 2211 for a limited war involving only Cuba) wasn't possible in the days before computers could keep track of all the variables.

So, the plan eveolved, as you note, but there was only one plan at any given time.

As far as War Plan Red not being updated after the 1920's, grumbler is probably right.  If it was updated in the 1930's, it was in 1930-32, because FDR suspended planning for war with the British when he took office, so there was certainly no officially adopted War Plan Red from 1935.  But I can buy that drawing up such war plans simply as a training exercise continued.

It would make sense to have the planners-in-training use obsolete plans that could be updated from unclassified sources.

[dps]

First, when referring to US war plans in the early part of the 20th century, it's usually a mistake to refer to "War Plan (insert color here)" as just one plan.  The US color-coded its war plans by the foreign nation in question--War Plan Orange was the plan for war with Japan, War Plan Red was the plan for war with the UK, etc.  But in most cases, there wasn't really just 1 plan, there was a series of plans that were changed over time. 

Actually, it would have been just one plan.  The details of the plan would change, and especial the provisos of the variants of the plan would change, but there was only ever the one plan to fight Japan in the period, War Plan Orange.  The current practice of having a bunch of related plans  (OpPlan 2200 for a general war in the Atlantic, with maybe OpPlan 2211 for a limited war involving only Cuba) wasn't possible in the days before computers could keep track of all the variables.

So, the plan eveolved, as you note, but there was only one plan at any given time.

Right, there was only one War Plan Orange at any given time, but the point I was trying to make you have to be careful about saying that War Plan Orange called for X, because War Plan Orange may have indeed called for X in 1925, but not in 1935.

[Malthus]

Anyway, if the Yanks do invade, we'd just launch batteries of Timbits at them and soon they'd be too fat to move.

Then we would unleash the Celine Dion music. 

[garbon]

Anyway, if the Yanks do invade, we'd just launch batteries of Timbits at them and soon they'd be too fat to move.

I don't think we'd be that excited about Canadian donut holes. (At first, I was like wtf is a Timbit / Tim is an American )

Then we would unleash the Celine Dion music. 

We'd issue our troops iPod shuffles to guard against that assault.  The UN would then strongly condemn the actions of Canada for committing human rights violations.