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Colgan Air Flight 3407 crash update

Started by Caliga, May 13, 2009, 01:10:51 PM

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KRonn

This didn't have to happen, as you guys are pointing out. The aircraft stalled, even had an auto device to lower the nose and increase airspeed in case the aircraft got close to a stall. But the pilot reacted wrong, and practicing stalls and recovery from them has to be something pilots train for a lot.

Also, the copilot was saying that she'd never flown in icing conditions, was untrained and/or was unfamiliar with the process. Have to wonder why she was flying in cold weather without proper training. Maybe this kind of thing happens a lot, and as long as one flight crew member was familiar with icing then that fits FAA regs? No idea on that.

Caliga

She must have practiced icing situations in the simulator, too, but her prior flying experience was mostly in the US southwest.  If you read the cockpit transcripts, IIRC the captain was bragging to her about how he was OSSUM at dealing with icing situations.  :lol:
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DGuller

Good bye, Colgan Air, you won't be missed.

Caliga

Quote from: DGuller on May 13, 2009, 04:09:20 PM
Good bye, Colgan Air, you won't be missed.

The thing is that there are like dozens of other regional carriers that are exactly like Colgan.
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Quote from: Caliga on May 13, 2009, 04:15:35 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 13, 2009, 04:09:20 PM
Good bye, Colgan Air, you won't be missed.

The thing is that there are like dozens of other regional carriers that are exactly like Colgan.

But none of them crashed an airplane due to incredible incompetence, so they are fine. For now.
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Quote from: Caliga on May 13, 2009, 04:15:35 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 13, 2009, 04:09:20 PM
Good bye, Colgan Air, you won't be missed.

The thing is that there are like dozens of other regional carriers that are exactly like Colgan.
Probably, but their shocking incompetence won't be in the news until they kill their own planeload of passengers.  This is starting to remind me of the Greek budget airline accident, where the plane was left unpressurized, and everyone was killed once the pilots ascended to a high altitude.

DGuller

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That's the accident I talked about in the previous post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522 .  I guess people weren't killed when the plane ascended, they were killed when it descended into the mountain once everyone lost consciousness and the plane ran out of fuel.  Not only did the airline stop operating, but some fo their executives are facing criminal charges.

Siege

Quote from: Caliga on May 13, 2009, 02:34:31 PM
The co-pilot was pretty hot, too.  The pilot may have been distracted by this.  NO HOT CHICKS IN THE COCKPIT.  :mad:



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Quote from: Caliga on May 14, 2009, 07:13:03 AM
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Hey, Cal, you can be my wingman, anyday! :)
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