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25 years old and deep in debt

Started by CountDeMoney, September 10, 2012, 10:43:12 PM

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alfred russel

Quote from: Ideologue on March 11, 2014, 05:57:18 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on March 11, 2014, 05:27:43 PM
I'm sure the zillion PhDs desperate for a teaching job--never mind a tenure track position--are thrilled to hear that assessment.

To cure an infestation of lice, the eggs of the insect must likewise be destroyed.

Does that apply to struggling law grads as well?  :P
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DGuller

Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 11, 2014, 01:52:54 PM
Before all the teacher-haters and anti-intellectual mouthbreathers bitch:

QuoteDuke head coach Mike Krzyzewski received a big pay raise this year to $7.2 million making him the highest-paid coach in college basketball and all of college sports.
Oh, please, that's just 120 undergrads.

Savonarola

Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 11, 2014, 01:52:54 PM
Before all the teacher-haters and anti-intellectual mouthbreathers bitch:

QuoteDuke head coach Mike Krzyzewski received a big pay raise this year to $7.2 million making him the highest-paid coach in college basketball and all of college sports.

He's built the Duke brand.    :)

;)

Most profs don't make that much; I had posted an article a few months back which listed about half the professors in the United States are part time non-tenure, another 20% are full time non-tenure and in addition there are innumerable TAs who teach lower level classes.  The examples in the article are upper administration and a super-star in the STEM field.  Even at Duke that's the exception.

Many people complain about the cost of education and, to me, $240,000 seems like an exorbitant amount for an undergraduate degree; but what do you cut?
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Josquius

Quote from: crazy canuck on March 11, 2014, 05:24:36 PM
An interesting opinion piece at the Globe essentially saying that time spent teaching at universities is way down.  The excuse given is more time is being spent on research.  But for at least 20% of professors in Ontario they have both a light teaching load and are not spending their time doing research.  Its estimated that if those professors who are not spending their time doing research would spend their time teaching a large number of spaces would be created - or put another way, we have way too many profs burdening the system.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/professors-need-to-teach-more/article17414147/
The entire system is broken.
If you have 16 hours of classes a week then you've a heavy workload. Many have only a handful. Even taking reading time into account...why do you have to stay in that place for 3 or 4 years of such crap just to get a bit of paper which means you're allowed to apply for jobs?
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Monoriu

Quote from: Tyr on March 12, 2014, 08:47:57 AM

The entire system is broken.
If you have 16 hours of classes a week then you've a heavy workload. Many have only a handful. Even taking reading time into account...why do you have to stay in that place for 3 or 4 years of such crap just to get a bit of paper which means you're allowed to apply for jobs?

It is a bad system, but I can't think of a better one. 

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crazy canuck

Quote from: Monoriu on March 12, 2014, 08:50:05 AM
Quote from: Tyr on March 12, 2014, 08:47:57 AM

The entire system is broken.
If you have 16 hours of classes a week then you've a heavy workload. Many have only a handful. Even taking reading time into account...why do you have to stay in that place for 3 or 4 years of such crap just to get a bit of paper which means you're allowed to apply for jobs?

It is a bad system, but I can't think of a better one.

If you read the opinion piece I linked, we had a better system.

garbon

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Your likelihood of losing your job to a computer.

In the future, the only job will be holodeck program designer.
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Computerized computer programmers (at 48%) - strikes me as a science-fiction distopia in the making.  :D
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Jacob

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 11, 2014, 06:02:16 PM
I think wealth inequality is the natural result of private property and capital markets that provide a return.

Does the order of magnitude of the inequality matter to you?