25 years old and deep in debt

[garbon]

The one thing nobody's thought of regarding these "exit exams":  what happens when a kid--whose parents shelled out tons of money for four years for an education that an institution was expected to provide--fails the exit exam, or doesn't make decent enough marks?  Answer:  lawsuit!  ZOMG U HAD MAH KID AND MAH MONEY FOR 4 YEARS AND U FAILED

I fully expect the legal departments and boards of these institutions of higher education to reevaluate the merits of these "exit exams" regarding their institutional and academic reputations shortly after they begin.

Exit exams?

[garbon]

Whoa hold up. Who said education should be the primary criteria? I questioned you when you and MIM asserted that where one went to college shouldn't be taken into consideration. And then suggested that significant (enough to warrant being mentioned) numbers of individuals are getting into good schools because their parents forked over endowments.

I never said that it shouldn't be taken into consideration at all. I just said that it shouldn't be a primary consideration.

And my only point in bringing that up was that not everyone who gets into Stanford, Harvard, or Yale did so strictly on merit. Some got in because their parents went there, because they had money (think of the number of actors and actresses who end up at Harvard), or yes, an endowment of some sort. I have no idea how many of either kind end up in an Ivy League school, but it's one of many reasons that I wouldn't go strictly on where they went to school in the hiring process.

In the early stages of interviewing, someone who went to Iowa State University would get just as fair a shake from me as someone who went to MIT for engineering, even though ISU is around 40 on the list of top engineering schools and MIT is in the top four. Now, if it came down to the two candidates and I just couldn't decide between them, I'd probably lean toward the MIT person.

Well that's what mim said.

[Ideologue]

The one thing nobody's thought of regarding these "exit exams":  what happens when a kid--whose parents shelled out tons of money for four years for an education that an institution was expected to provide--fails the exit exam, or doesn't make decent enough marks?  Answer:  lawsuit!  ZOMG U HAD MAH KID AND MAH MONEY FOR 4 YEARS AND U FAILED

I fully expect the legal departments and boards of these institutions of higher education to reevaluate the merits of these "exit exams" regarding their institutional and academic reputations shortly after they begin.

Sophisticated consumers who lacked any contractual guarantees and a defendant who lacked any fiduciary duty?  Motion for failure to state a claim: granted.  SO ORDERED.

[crazy canuck]

I wish Hamilcar was still here

[frunk]

You're good at math.  That makes you smarter than probably anybody currently posting on Languish.  Hamilcar was smarter than you, and so was Vinraith.  But in the land of 1/1/1s the 1/3/1 is king.

Why do you think that? Because Hamilcar and Vinraith stayed in school longer?

They were scientists.  Vinraith was a biologist of some stripe and Hamilcar was an astrophysicist who works on galactic evolution and who works at [university, I'm not sure if he'd like me saying where].

I think Vinraith was in Physics.

[crazy canuck]

I also miss Vinny

[Valmy]

I wish Hamilcar was still here

Well it was Marty who drove him off so maybe somebody should tell him Marty has been cordon sanitaired.

[crazy canuck]

I wish Hamilcar was still here

Well it was Marty who drove him off so maybe somebody should tell him Marty has been cordon sanitaired.

Ide, get on that would you?

[DGuller]

I wish Hamilcar was still here

Well it was Marty who drove him off so maybe somebody should tell him Marty has been cordon sanitaired.

It was Marty's poll that set things in motion, but it was the poll result from all of us that drove him off.  Can't really say that I miss him.

[garbon]

Oh was that the poll about snobbiness or something in that vein. I think whatever it was Marti had largely intended as a swipe at me.

[crazy canuck]

Can't really say that I miss him.

Because he really is a supergenius?

[Valmy]

Oh was that the poll about snobbiness or something in that vein. I think whatever it was Marti had largely intended as a swipe at me.

Yep.  He did not even mean it to be mean to Hamilcar at all.

[merithyn]

You laugh, but it's actually true to some extent.  It's hard to consistently stay on the "super" side of the genius/supergenius divide.

You're good at math.  That makes you smarter than probably anybody currently posting on Languish.  Hamilcar was smarter than you, and so was Vinraith.  But in the land of 1/1/1s the 1/3/1 is king.

Being good at math does not make one smarter than anyone. That just means that person is good at math. My brother got a perfect score on his Math ACT, but only got a 19 on this English. He, like DG, is an actuary. He's bright, but not the smartest man I know by any stretch of the imagination.

I'd argue that JR is probably the smartest person currently posting on Languish.

[Ideologue]

I wish Hamilcar was still here

Well it was Marty who drove him off so maybe somebody should tell him Marty has been cordon sanitaired.

Ide, get on that would you?

I could probably get ahold of him, but iirc he was pretty tired of Languish in general.  Well, who knows?  I can try.  He probably won't have his Swiss mercenary bodyguards murder me.

[Valmy]

I could probably get ahold of him, but iirc he was pretty tired of Languish in general.  Well, who knows?  I can try.  He probably won't have his Swiss mercenary bodyguards murder me.

That was years ago though and we have evolved and changed so much since then.