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25 years old and deep in debt

Started by CountDeMoney, September 10, 2012, 10:43:12 PM

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merithyn

Quote from: Jacob on August 26, 2013, 11:55:30 AM
Quote from: merithyn on August 26, 2013, 11:50:24 AMThis is DG you're talking to. Numbers mean everything.

That's half the picture.

The other half is reasoning that assumes that if some people share a certain piece of information and others do not, then one should conclude that whoever does not share the information are doing so because they have something to hide.

I was trying to avoid any TBR references. :sleep:
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

DGuller

Quote from: Jacob on August 26, 2013, 11:55:30 AM
Quote from: merithyn on August 26, 2013, 11:50:24 AMThis is DG you're talking to. Numbers mean everything.

That's half the picture.

The other half is reasoning that assumes that if some people share a certain piece of information and others do not, then one should conclude that whoever does not share the information are doing so because they have something to hide.
In an environment where people have an incentive to sell you something, I think it's very reasonable to assume that if some piece of information that could be a selling point is not disclosed, then it's not good enough to actually be a selling point.

garbon

Quote from: DGuller on August 26, 2013, 12:29:07 PM
Quote from: Jacob on August 26, 2013, 11:55:30 AM
Quote from: merithyn on August 26, 2013, 11:50:24 AMThis is DG you're talking to. Numbers mean everything.

That's half the picture.

The other half is reasoning that assumes that if some people share a certain piece of information and others do not, then one should conclude that whoever does not share the information are doing so because they have something to hide.
In an environment where people have an incentive to sell you something, I think it's very reasonable to assume that if some piece of information that could be a selling point is not disclosed, then it's not good enough to actually be a selling point.

Well sure, a resume is about putting your best foot forward. My 3.6 isn't something that I consider in my strongest selling points and so it is omitted.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Jacob

Quote from: DGuller on August 26, 2013, 12:29:07 PMIn an environment where people have an incentive to sell you something, I think it's very reasonable to assume that if some piece of information that could be a selling point is not disclosed, then it's not good enough to actually be a selling point.

Sure.

But "not good enough to be a selling point" is very different from "a terrible secret that is being hidden".

DGuller

I didn't say anything about "terrible secrets".  :huh: You must be reading in way more than was was written or meant.

Jacob

Quote from: DGuller on August 26, 2013, 12:40:34 PM
I didn't say anything about "terrible secrets".  :huh: You must be reading in way more than was was written or meant.

It's my general impression of your attitude on a number of different topics, rather than this one discussion. You seem to conclude that stuff that is not shown has been deliberately hidden, and thus it is fair to conclude to draw a very negative inference from the absent information; at least that's the impression I've gotten from you.

crazy canuck

Quote from: DGuller on August 26, 2013, 12:40:34 PM
I didn't say anything about "terrible secrets".  :huh: You must be reading in way more than was was written or meant.

You said the implication would be that they are below average - which is a silly assumption to make - akin to a terrible secret being kept from you.

merithyn

I believe that the point being made is that one shouldn't read anything into the absence of a GPA on a resume. Since, you know, they generally don't mean anything.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

MadImmortalMan

I don't even care if candidates don't list their school. I don't care.
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"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
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The Brain

I list skull size and leave it at that.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

merithyn

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 26, 2013, 02:14:56 PM
I don't even care if candidates don't list their school. I don't care.

:hug:

Can I: work for you? Sanity in the workplace is such a wonderful thing.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

crazy canuck

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 26, 2013, 02:14:56 PM
I don't even care if candidates don't list their school. I don't care.

Why not?  Here there would be a significant difference between obtaining a degree from a University and one obtained from what has become known here as a degree granting college.  Maybe those differences dont exist in the US?

The Brain

MIM is self-made and believes in hard work and personal responsibility.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

merithyn

Quote from: The Brain on August 26, 2013, 03:22:23 PM
MIM is self-made and believes in hard work and personal responsibility.

As it should be.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Caliga

College GPA might be relevant and interesting if the person's never had a professional job before.  After that, it's of no interest to me whatsoever.
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