25 years old and deep in debt

[DGuller]

Employers don't trust GPA unless that GPA is low, then they trust it.

Seems logical in the grade inflation environment.

[CountDeMoney]

Employers don't trust GPA unless that GPA is low, then they trust it.

Seems logical in the grade inflation environment.

I find it discriminatory.

[The Minsky Moment]

If you had nice tits in my classes, I'd likely give you an A.

In the online courses, the software did all the work.

Now THAT's spyware.

[garbon]

But if only 1 in 4 employers feel that students are prepared for work I don't see how like exit tests would help fresh grads, as opposed to where they went;  I'm sure a straight C student from Harvard or Football Factory U would still be in a position to succeed on the entry-level job front than a straight A student from the University of Student Loans State--Basement campus.

Of course. Also, I never give out my GPA unless pressed. It wasn't a 4.0, so why list it?

[garbon]

Employers don't trust GPA unless that GPA is low, then they trust it.

Seems logical in the grade inflation environment.

I find it discriminatory.

I don't see how. On some level seems like IQ testing. Good for sorting chaff at bottom of range but not so good near the top.

[DGuller]

But if only 1 in 4 employers feel that students are prepared for work I don't see how like exit tests would help fresh grads, as opposed to where they went;  I'm sure a straight C student from Harvard or Football Factory U would still be in a position to succeed on the entry-level job front than a straight A student from the University of Student Loans State--Basement campus.

Of course. Also, I never give out my GPA unless pressed. It wasn't a 4.0, so why list it?

So that people wouldn't assume that it's less than average, or otherwise you would've listed it?

[garbon]

But if only 1 in 4 employers feel that students are prepared for work I don't see how like exit tests would help fresh grads, as opposed to where they went;  I'm sure a straight C student from Harvard or Football Factory U would still be in a position to succeed on the entry-level job front than a straight A student from the University of Student Loans State--Basement campus.

Of course. Also, I never give out my GPA unless pressed. It wasn't a 4.0, so why list it?

So that people wouldn't assume that it's less than average, or otherwise you would've listed it?

Obviously, I am not in their heads, but I think most people see Stanford and say awesome and then move back to reviewing relevant experience.

I don't think listing after 4-5 years outside of school makes much sense if less, as all it does is underline that it wasn't a 4.0.

[crazy canuck]

So that people wouldn't assume that it's less than average, or otherwise you would've listed it?

Why would someone list a GPA that is average

If it is not there it just means the person is not the top of the class but rather is somewhere in the pack of, you know, average for that class and school.  If the school is good then, unless your hiring criteria requires someone with the top marks, why would you care about the GPA

[garbon]

And to be clear, I think that makes sense for most schools*. GPA doesn't seem a very relevant factor to me the more years a candidate is removed from their education.

*edit: if you went somewhere no one has heard of then listing your less than perfect GPA might be a positive thing, if it is high enough.

[Eddie Teach]

I think people who graduate with a laud of cum frequently advertise it. 

[merithyn]

So that people wouldn't assume that it's less than average, or otherwise you would've listed it?

Why would someone list a GPA that is average

If it is not there it just means the person is not the top of the class but rather is somewhere in the pack of, you know, average for that class and school.  If the school is good then, unless your hiring criteria requires someone with the top marks, why would you care about the GPA

This is DG you're talking to. Numbers mean everything.

[Jacob]

This is DG you're talking to. Numbers mean everything.

That's half the picture.

The other half is reasoning that assumes that if some people share a certain piece of information and others do not, then one should conclude that whoever does not share the information are doing so because they have something to hide.

[garbon]

The other half is reasoning that assumes that if some people share a certain piece of information and others do not, then one should conclude that whoever does not share the information are doing so because they have something to hide.

Of course it could just be irrelevant. Sort of like how I don't list anything with regards to high school or my time spent at Barnes & Noble.

[crazy canuck]

The other half is reasoning that assumes that if some people share a certain piece of information and others do not, then one should conclude that whoever does not share the information are doing so because they have something to hide.

Of course it could just be irrelevant. Sort of like how I don't list anything with regards to high school or my time spent at Barnes & Noble.

So, you leave gaps in your resume   very suspicious.

[Jacob]

Of course it could just be irrelevant. Sort of like how I don't list anything with regards to high school or my time spent at Barnes & Noble.

Well yeah, that's how most normal people think.