25 years old and deep in debt

[The Brain]

You can't go all obese on people and expect them to treat you like they treat norms.

[Ed Anger]

All kidding aside, obviously I don't support appearance being a metric by which prospective grad students are judged.  It's unfair, meaningless, and wrong.  Happy?

No fat chicks.

[grumbler]

Indeed they do.

I take great solace however, in two things:

1. We are of course vastly higher than ASU.
2. The Pac-10 has a corner on the top schools that are not the Ivy League.
3. We are top-50 for research schools! Whatever that means.

Uh, no.

While the Pac 12 has five schools in the top 100 and the Big Ten only 6, (for the top 150 that's 7 and 10), there are 5 Pac 12 teams lower than the lowest-ranked Big Ten school (Iowa, at 183).  In fact, the lowest Pac 12 school (WSU) is down at 328, which I believe is below the level of human mentation.

Both conferences do have one of the eight Public Ivies, but the ACC has two, so we won't go there.

[Neil]

I'm a product of my environment.

Except your environment is one that encourages poor people to get fat.

[Josquius]

All kidding aside, obviously I don't support appearance being a metric by which prospective grad students are judged.  It's unfair, meaningless, and wrong.  Happy?

But it's life. Research has found taller, better looking people do better in life in general. We live in a social world here  giving off a good impression is important

[Ideologue]

All kidding aside, obviously I don't support appearance being a metric by which prospective grad students are judged.  It's unfair, meaningless, and wrong.  Happy?

But it's life. Research has found taller, better looking people do better in life in general. We live in a social world here  giving off a good impression is important

If only there were some kind of easy solution to obesity.

[HVC]

All kidding aside, obviously I don't support appearance being a metric by which prospective grad students are judged.  It's unfair, meaningless, and wrong.  Happy?

But it's life. Research has found taller, better looking people do better in life in general. We live in a social world here  giving off a good impression is important

If only there were some kind of easy solution to obesity.

aren't you short? if so it'd be in your best interest for there to be more fat people. You'll look better in comparison

[Ideologue]

I'm not.

[Neil]

No, but he's a smoker.  That's even worse than fat.

[OttoVonBismarck]

I'd never seen the Forbes list before, it sounds like it actually tries to correct all the problems I've always had with the U.S. News & World Report list, I wonder why I've never heard of it and why the U.S. News Rankings are still so prominent? I half-wonder if the reason is colleges much prefer a list like USN&WR because it focuses on things they can easily control (selectivity) instead of things they might not be able to compete in even if they tried--results. Anyway, I also like that the USMA is ranked #7 on the Forbes list. USN&WR doesn't even rank us as a national university.

[The Minsky Moment]

But it corrects those problems by committing a bunch of new and distinct mistakes.
USNWR at least has the virtue of measuring some particular dimension, whatever its actual importance.  Forbes is just a jumbled grab bag of factors and the way some of the individual constituents are measured is really head-scratching.
The bigger problem is the very notion of having a single generic rating for a university.  Begs the question of: rating for what?
The Forbes 1-2 ranking of Stanford and Pomona is a great illustration.   It's like ranking the best food and saying: (1) ribeye steak, (2) creme brulee

[Tonitrus]

In fact, the lowest Pac 12 school (WSU) is down at 328, which I believe is below the level of human mentation.

Plausible...the students there have been known to riot over access to beer.

[Savonarola]

Court: Cooley Law grads can't sue over tuition, jobs
Ed White
Associated Press

Detroit —Today's lesson: Are graduates of the largest Michigan law school entitled to a tuition refund if they don't find satisfactory jobs? Not according to a federal appeals court.

The court ruled Tuesday in a case involving a dozen unhappy graduates from Thomas M. Cooley Law School, which has campuses across Michigan and in Tampa, Fla.

The graduates claimed they were fooled by rosy employment statistics published by the school. The appeals court, however, said Michigan's consumer protection law doesn't apply, and the graduates put too much reliance on Cooley's job survey of other graduates.

The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, 3-0, affirmed a similar decision by a federal judge in Grand Rapids.

"Our survey was reported accurately, not fraudulently. That's the bottom line of the case," said James Thelen, Cooley's general counsel.

The graduates who sued Cooley said they had difficulty finding full-time, paid jobs. Shane Hobbs of Pennsylvania graduated in 2010 but has worked as a substitute teacher and at a golf course. Danny Wakefield of Utah graduated in 2007 but ended up managing the delivery of phone books, according to the 6th Circuit decision.

The Cooley graduates accused the school of fraud by reporting in 2010 that 76 percent of graduates were employed within nine months. The graduates claimed that should be interpreted as full-time positions requiring a law degree. But it actually included jobs outside law.

The appeals court said it wasn't fraud because it wasn't false. The survey listed the number of graduates in private law practice, government, academia and business.

"I completely disagree that we were painting a rosy picture," Thelen said. "They never bothered to call us and ask what the 76 percent meant."

Cooley's tuition ranges from $34,800 a year for 24 credits to $43,500 for 30 credits. It's slightly less expensive after the first 30 credits.

Despite the defeat, an attorney who represented the graduates, Jesse Strauss, believes the lawsuit and similar ones against other schools have improved how job surveys are reported to students. The American Bar Association, for example, has told schools to provide more information about how many graduates are in jobs that require a law degree.

"There's been a general discussion about the value of a law degree. That discussion wasn't in the mainstream before," Strauss said.


From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130730/SCHOOLS/307300111#ixzz2aejdhNaZ

Unless your career goal was to harvest sugarcane, you really should have known better than to go to a place called "Cooley Law."

[Zanza]

It's like ranking the best food and saying: (1) ribeye steak, (2) creme brulee

That sounds fairly reasonable. 

[CountDeMoney]

Millennials, in Their Parents' Basements

Last year, a record 36 percent of people 18 to 31 years old — roughly the age range of the generation nicknamed the millennials — were living in their parents' homes, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of Census Bureau data. That compares to 32 percent of their same-aged counterparts in 2007, the year the recession began.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/01/millennials-in-their-parents-basements/?ref=business