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25 years old and deep in debt

Started by CountDeMoney, September 10, 2012, 10:43:12 PM

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Phillip V

Quote from: garbon on April 12, 2013, 10:36:37 AM
http://www.princetonreview.com/college-hopes-worries.aspx

What "dream" college do you wish you (your child) could attend if acceptance and/or cost were not issues? (fill in the blank)








StudentsParents
1 Stanford UniversityStanford University
2 Harvard CollegeHarvard College
3 Columbia UniversityPrinceton University
4 New York UniversityUniversity of Notre Dame
5 Princeton UniversityMassachusetts Institute of Technology
Ms. O'Shaughnessy said she was trying to counsel a father in New Jersey who was on the verge of making a horrendous financial decision. His daughter had received a full scholarship to attend Rutgers University but her first choice was New York University, which, even with financial aid, would cost the family $32,000 a year. The father, an engineer who was also out of work, said he was going to send her to N.Y.U.

"I can't even believe he's considering it," she said. "I was floored. It's irrational."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/20/your-money/measuring-college-prestige-vs-price.html

Phillip V

#1201
Managers to Millennials: Job Interview No Time to Text

"Hiring managers say many new college graduates perform poorly—sometimes even bizarrely—in job interviews.

Human resource professionals say they've seen recent college grads text or take calls in interviews, dress inappropriately, use slang or overly casual language, and exhibit other oddball behavior.
...
Fall and other HR executives say such quirks have become more commonplace the past three years or so, and are displayed by about one in five recent grads. They're prompting recruiters to rule out otherwise qualified candidates for entry-level positions and delay hiring decisions.

The trend reflects a generation of Millennials—ranging in age from 18 to 34—who grew up texting and using smartphones and social media, says Mara Swan, executive vice president of staffing firm Manpower.

"Life has gotten more casual," Swan says. "They don't realize (the interview) is a sales event."

So much off-the-cuff speaking in tweets and text messages has left many young people with stunted social skills, says Jonathan Singel, director of talent acquisition for Avery Dennison, a packaging and label maker.
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About half of HR executives say most recent grads are not professional their first year on the job, up from 40 percent of executives who had that view in 2012, according to a recent survey by the Center for Professional Excellence at York College of Pennsylvania.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100684583



Why some job candidates flunked their interviews:

Taking calls and texting. A male graduate student seeking a managerial position in Avery Dennison's research and development unit took a call on his smartphone about 15 minutes into the interview. The call, which lasted about a minute and wasn't an emergency, ruined his near-certain chance for a job offer, Singel says.

"If he thought that was OK, what else does he think is appropriate?" he says.

Helicoptering parents. A man in his late 20s brought his father into a 45-minute interview for a material-handling job on an assembly line, says Teri Nichols, owner of a Spherion staffing-agency in Brooksville, Fla. At Cigna, a health insurance provider, the father of a recent grad who received an offer for a sales job, called to negotiate a higher salary, says Paula Welch, a Cigna HR consultant.

Pets in tow. A college senior brought her cat into an interview for a buyer's position at clothing retailer American Eagle. She set the crate-housed cat on the interviewer's desk and periodically played with it. "It hit me like—why would you think that's OK?" says Mark Dillon, the chain's former recruiting director. "She cut herself off before she had a chance."

CountDeMoney

Wow, Millennials are Ritalin-overdosed Assburgers with an inability to communicate with other humans without direction from their parents.  Color me shocked.

crazy canuck

Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 30, 2013, 11:07:56 AM
Wow, Millennials are Ritalin-overdosed Assburgers with an inability to communicate with other humans without direction from their parents.  Color me shocked.

The infirmity is speading to other generations as well.  My sister in law was over the weekend and she frequently would interrupt conversations to respond to a text from her daughter.  Odd behaviour yes.  Limited to Milennials no.  It is the scourge of our time infecting everyone with anti social behaviour.

MadImmortalMan

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Ed Anger

I'm glad I generally don't have to deal with this kind of bullshit anymore. It was bad enough when they stank and were poorly dressed.
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Baron von Schtinkenbutt

Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 30, 2013, 11:07:56 AM
Wow, Millennials are Ritalin-overdosed Assburgers with an inability to communicate with other humans without direction from their parents.  Color me shocked.

Generalize much?

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on April 30, 2013, 01:02:52 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 30, 2013, 11:07:56 AM
Wow, Millennials are Ritalin-overdosed Assburgers with an inability to communicate with other humans without direction from their parents.  Color me shocked.

Generalize much?

When it comes to that shitty generation, yuppers.

Caliga

Quote from: Phillip V on April 30, 2013, 11:04:29 AM
Managers to Millennials: Job Interview No Time to Text
You people would not BELIEVE some of the shit I've seen from youngsters in interviews. :rolleyes:
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garbon

Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 30, 2013, 01:29:01 PM
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on April 30, 2013, 01:02:52 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 30, 2013, 11:07:56 AM
Wow, Millennials are Ritalin-overdosed Assburgers with an inability to communicate with other humans without direction from their parents.  Color me shocked.

Generalize much?

When it comes to that shitty generation, yuppers.

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Quote from: Caliga on April 30, 2013, 01:31:56 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on April 30, 2013, 11:04:29 AM
Managers to Millennials: Job Interview No Time to Text
You people would not BELIEVE some of the shit I've seen from youngsters in interviews. :rolleyes:
and then you claim not to be in HR
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Hubris must be punished. Severely.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: garbon on April 30, 2013, 01:32:57 PM
Isn't it time for you to be getting to your nursing home?

No.  Now move, you're blocking the TV.

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Quote from: Caliga on April 30, 2013, 01:31:56 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on April 30, 2013, 11:04:29 AM
Managers to Millennials: Job Interview No Time to Text
You people would not BELIEVE some of the shit I've seen from youngsters in interviews. :rolleyes:
Note that the article title and first line directly contradict each other.  the title is 'managers', while the first line is 'human resources professionals'.  Human resources is, as we all know, incapable of managing themselves, let alone anyone else.
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