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25 years old and deep in debt

Started by CountDeMoney, September 10, 2012, 10:43:12 PM

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Razgovory

Quote from: garbon on February 21, 2013, 01:44:31 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 21, 2013, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 21, 2013, 01:31:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 21, 2013, 01:17:03 PM
Meh, it all goes towards covering garbon's travel expenses anyway.

Someone has to pay for them.

If I wanted to pay for you to get laid in Europe, I'd rather cut the check directly to you instead of paying for the overhead.  It'd be cheaper. :P

:P

@Raz - I think it'd be very strange if my parents paid for my company to send me on business. :D

Your company pays for you to get laid in Europe?  What kind of business are you in now?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Razgovory on February 21, 2013, 01:46:05 PM
Your company pays for you to get laid in Europe?  What kind of business are you in now?

He's still a Medical-Industrial Complex whore.

derspiess

Quote from: Razgovory on February 21, 2013, 01:46:05 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 21, 2013, 01:44:31 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 21, 2013, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 21, 2013, 01:31:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 21, 2013, 01:17:03 PM
Meh, it all goes towards covering garbon's travel expenses anyway.

Someone has to pay for them.

If I wanted to pay for you to get laid in Europe, I'd rather cut the check directly to you instead of paying for the overhead.  It'd be cheaper. :P

:P

@Raz - I think it'd be very strange if my parents paid for my company to send me on business. :D

Your company pays for you to get laid in Europe?  What kind of business are you in now?

My company paid for me to take a weekend wilderness adventure in Oregon.  Didn't get laid, though :mellow:
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Zanza

Medical equipment is really expensive here, however I guess even there the price is regulated indirectly by having a huge public insurance that administrates most of our healthcare budget. Hospitals and private doctors will just not have endless amounts of cash available due to the fact that they are paid according to the general catalogue of the public health insurance.

Medical education is state-run here as well, at least for doctors (nurses are probably trained in private hospitals as well). The state can at least somewhat regulate how many students are admitted into medical sciences at universities. The problem we have is not the number of available doctors per se, but rather that they cluster in big, attractive cities which have an oversupply and leave rural areas with an deficient supply. I guess an even more socialist state could solve that, but individual doctors here are obviously still free to pick their place of work.

Barrister

Quote from: crazy canuck on February 21, 2013, 01:37:59 PM
Socializing is probably the wrong word for it.

If you change your system to a single payor system that fundamentally changes the cost structure because the single payor now has all the clout it needs when dealing with the amount it is willing to pay health care providers.

It is fundamentally different from the kind of cost discipline private health insurance companies engage in which is to deny coverage rather than deal with the cost of the service.

BB's point is well taken that health care is expensive no matter what system you use. But at the very least a single payor system has the benefit of having some actual cost discipline along with the very great benefit that everyone has access to basic health care.

:lmfao:

Sure, governments across Canada are having great success in enforcing cost discipline.  Oh wait, they're not.

Here's a chart showing Canadian health care spending:

Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Ideologue

Have you considered death panels?  I'm looking forward to their implementation here.
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DGuller

Quote from: Barrister on February 21, 2013, 01:58:05 PM
:lmfao:

Sure, governments across Canada are having great success in enforcing cost discipline.  Oh wait, they're not.

Here's a chart showing Canadian health care spending:


What do these two lines represent?

Barrister

Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

DGuller

Quote from: Barrister on February 21, 2013, 02:04:15 PM
Total amount of health care spending in Canada.

Here's the report I grabbed it from (I linked to figure 1).

http://www.cihi.ca/cihi-ext-portal/internet/en/document/spending+and+health+workforce/spending/release_03nov11
What conclusion am I supposed to draw from this?  I see the lines going up, but how can I judge whether that's a reasonable growth or not?

Caliga

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sbr

Quote from: DGuller on February 21, 2013, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 21, 2013, 02:04:15 PM
Total amount of health care spending in Canada.

Here's the report I grabbed it from (I linked to figure 1).

http://www.cihi.ca/cihi-ext-portal/internet/en/document/spending+and+health+workforce/spending/release_03nov11
What conclusion am I supposed to draw from this?  I see the lines going up, but how can I judge whether that's a reasonable growth or not?

Yeah, as a population ages (Baby Boomers) you would expect total health care costs to rise.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: sbr on February 21, 2013, 03:02:37 PM
Yeah, as a population ages (Baby Boomers) you would expect total health care costs to rise.

Not to mention the population's growing as well. The numbers aren't adjusted per capita.

Course, even when all of that is taken into account, I'd imagine health care costs to be higher now than in the 70s due to all the high tech machines in use.
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DGuller

Quote from: sbr on February 21, 2013, 03:02:37 PM
Quote from: DGuller on February 21, 2013, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 21, 2013, 02:04:15 PM
Total amount of health care spending in Canada.

Here's the report I grabbed it from (I linked to figure 1).

http://www.cihi.ca/cihi-ext-portal/internet/en/document/spending+and+health+workforce/spending/release_03nov11
What conclusion am I supposed to draw from this?  I see the lines going up, but how can I judge whether that's a reasonable growth or not?

Yeah, as a population ages (Baby Boomers) you would expect total health care costs to rise.
Or just as population increases, for that matter.  Comparing nominal figures, even when inflation-adjusted, is only useful if you're trying to make a misleading point.  Without taking into account the sources of exposure to costs, such figures are worse than useless.

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The Age of the Permanent Intern

'Many of the ambitious young people who flock to Washington toil for years as low-paid interns—and count themselves lucky to do so. Is this what success looks like in 2013?'

http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/the-age-of-the-permanent-intern/
QuoteIn so many ways, Kate, who was born in 1987, is a perfect reflection of the opportunities and hardships of being young today. She’s smart and motivated and has a degree from an Ivy League school, yet at 25 she worries she’ll never attain the status or lifestyle of her boomer parents. She majored in political science and has a burnished social conscience, something she honed teaching creative writing in a women’s prison. But Kate’s most salient—and at this point, defining—generational trait might be that she doesn’t have a full-time job. Instead, she has been an intern for a year and a half.

Kate moved to DC after dropping out of her first year of law school. She has cycled through one internship at a political organization and another at a media company and is now biding her time as an unpaid intern at a lobbying firm. To make ends meet, she works as a hostess in Adams Morgan three or four nights a week, which means she often clocks 15-hour days.

“I don’t mean to sound like I have an ego, but I am an intelligent, hard-working person,” Kate says. “Someone would be happy they hired me.”


Josquius

#869
A year and a half? She just needs to stick at it for 6 more months then she'll have permission to apply for work.

The internships are paid too. That's great.
Lots of us weren't lucky enough to do internships.
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