Federal appeals court strikes down FDA tobacco warning label law

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derspiess

#30
August 29, 2012, 01:05:46 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 29, 2012, 01:00:30 PM
The idea is to create a stigma around smoking.  Thats why the anti smoking adds these days focus on how it makes you look like crap.  We cant prevent people from doing stupid things but we can appeal to their vanity.

How's that one working? 
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Barrister

#31
August 29, 2012, 01:09:21 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 29, 2012, 01:05:46 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 29, 2012, 01:00:30 PM
The idea is to create a stigma around smoking.  Thats why the anti smoking adds these days focus on how it makes you look like crap.  We cant prevent people from doing stupid things but we can appeal to their vanity.

How's that one working?

Smoking rates continue to decrease, and are at all time lows. :)
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

HVC

#32
August 29, 2012, 01:10:22 PM
IIRC teen smoking fell in he mid nineties but has been at the same level since. So in regards to pictures on packs, that didn't work. What did was über taxing them, with the unentended consequence of "counterfeit" smokes hitting a new high. These don't have the same safety percausions as normal smokes (limited they may be) and are worse for you. It's always chinas fault lol
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

derspiess

#33
August 29, 2012, 01:10:58 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 29, 2012, 01:09:21 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 29, 2012, 01:05:46 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 29, 2012, 01:00:30 PM
The idea is to create a stigma around smoking.  Thats why the anti smoking adds these days focus on how it makes you look like crap.  We cant prevent people from doing stupid things but we can appeal to their vanity.

How's that one working?

Smoking rates continue to decrease, and are at all time lows. :)

Because of the ads?  :yeahright:
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Barrister

#34
August 29, 2012, 01:21:47 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 29, 2012, 01:10:58 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 29, 2012, 01:09:21 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 29, 2012, 01:05:46 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 29, 2012, 01:00:30 PM
The idea is to create a stigma around smoking.  Thats why the anti smoking adds these days focus on how it makes you look like crap.  We cant prevent people from doing stupid things but we can appeal to their vanity.

How's that one working?

Smoking rates continue to decrease, and are at all time lows. :)

Because of the ads?  :yeahright:

It appears to be part of it.   :)
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

derspiess

#35
August 29, 2012, 01:27:34 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 29, 2012, 01:21:47 PM
It appears to be part of it.   :)

Keep telling yourself that.  I'd have a hard time imagining the ads keeping one kid from smoking.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Barrister

#36
August 29, 2012, 01:33:49 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 29, 2012, 01:27:34 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 29, 2012, 01:21:47 PM
It appears to be part of it.   :)

Keep telling yourself that.  I'd have a hard time imagining the ads keeping one kid from smoking.

:console:

You should work on your imagination, then.  I can imagine all kinds of things, myself.  :)
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

HVC

#37
August 29, 2012, 01:34:36 PM
you two seem stressed. Have a smoke, it does wonders :D
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Barrister

#38
August 29, 2012, 01:35:43 PM
Quote from: HVC on August 29, 2012, 01:34:36 PM
you two seem stressed. Have a smoke, it does wonders :D

Right now I'm imagining my foot up your ass.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Neil

#39
August 29, 2012, 01:36:31 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 29, 2012, 01:21:47 PM
It appears to be part of it.   :)
I think the smoking bans are much more significant.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

derspiess

#40
August 29, 2012, 01:39:20 PM
I could imagine having a cigar right now.  Too bad I can't do that at work.  Never have time these days at home :angry:
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

HVC

#41
August 29, 2012, 01:52:23 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 29, 2012, 01:35:43 PM
Quote from: HVC on August 29, 2012, 01:34:36 PM
you two seem stressed. Have a smoke, it does wonders :D

Right now I'm imagining my foot up your ass.
:o why are you anti-smoking guys so violent :(
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Barrister

#42
August 29, 2012, 01:56:38 PM
Quote from: HVC on August 29, 2012, 01:52:23 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 29, 2012, 01:35:43 PM
Quote from: HVC on August 29, 2012, 01:34:36 PM
you two seem stressed. Have a smoke, it does wonders :D

Right now I'm imagining my foot up your ass.
:o why are you anti-smoking guys so violent :(

What you call violence, I call negative reinforcement.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Ed Anger

#43
August 29, 2012, 02:04:53 PM
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

crazy canuck

#44
August 30, 2012, 11:29:17 AM
Quote from: Neil on August 29, 2012, 01:36:31 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 29, 2012, 01:21:47 PM
It appears to be part of it.   :)
I think the smoking bans are much more significant.

I think you are correct.  Watching all those wretches standing on the street corner in their expensive suits smoking in the rain went a long way to make it look uncool.  Even to teenage girls more concerned about smoking helping them keep off the weight.
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