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Israelis fret over 'lynching' of Palestinian

Started by jimmy olsen, August 22, 2012, 06:38:49 AM

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jimmy olsen

Shameful.

People shouldn't be surprised that no one intervened though. There were 40 of these jerks. Unless you have a gun and are willing to use it, you can't stand up to 40 belligerent assholes.
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QuoteIsraelis fret over 'lynching' of Palestinian

By Martin Fletcher, NBC News

TEL AVIV – On Thursday nights in the summer, Jerusalem's Zion Square is full of people strolling in the pedestrian precinct, listening to music, eating ice cream, and drinking.

But alcohol does not explain what happened there in the early hours of last Friday morning.

The near-fatal beating of a 17-year-old Palestinian Arab by a mob of dozens of Israeli Jews was explained in purely racial terms by a 15-year-old suspect in the attack.

"For my part he can die, he's an Arab," the suspect told reporters as he left court Monday. "If it was up to me I'd have murdered him. He cursed my mother."

Eyewitnesses say about 40 young Israelis, egged on by a 15-year-old girl, chased four Arab youths, shouting racial insults and "Death to Arabs" at them.

The Arabs fled, but one, Jamal Julani, tripped and fell to the ground. At least 10 Israelis caught him and beat and kicked him until he was unconscious. He ended up in a coma for the next two days, only waking up on Sunday.

No one intervened?
The attack is shocking enough for many Israelis; but just as shocking, according to the many newspaper reports and Internet comments, is that although there were hundreds of bystanders, reportedly nobody intervened to try to stop the beating.

"There appears to be a worryingly high level of tolerance – whether explicit or implicit – for such despicable acts of violence," the Jerusalem Post wrote in an editorial about the attack.

Eyewitnesses say about 40 young Israelis, egged on by a 15-year-old girl, chased four Arab youths, shouting racial insults and "Death to Arabs" at them.

The Arabs fled, but one, Jamal Julani, tripped and fell to the ground. At least 10 Israelis caught him and beat and kicked him until he was unconscious. He ended up in a coma for the next two days, only waking up on Sunday.

No one intervened?
The attack is shocking enough for many Israelis; but just as shocking, according to the many newspaper reports and Internet comments, is that although there were hundreds of bystanders, reportedly nobody intervened to try to stop the beating.

"There appears to be a worryingly high level of tolerance – whether explicit or implicit – for such despicable acts of violence," the Jerusalem Post wrote in an editorial about the attack.
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Tamas

My growing suspicion is that Israel has been Russified. Which will inevitably lead to it's decline and fall.

Siege

Oh please, how many times have the palestinians done this to israelis.
A taste of their own poison will be good for them.



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DGuller

 :hmm:  Seems like diffusion of responsibility thing to me rather than widespread tolerance of lynchings.  But that's probably a more boring explanation, so let's moan about lynching-tolerating Israeli society.  :rolleyes:

Viking

Quote from: Siege on August 22, 2012, 10:11:44 AM
Oh please, how many times have the palestinians done this to israelis.
A taste of their own poison will be good for them.

I just want to point out that the main reason I support Israel over the Palestinians is that supposedly Israel doesn't do shit like this while the Palestinians not only do but do proudly.
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Tamas on August 22, 2012, 06:40:14 AM
My growing suspicion is that Israel has been Russified. Which will inevitably lead to it's decline and fall.

You've got a point:  while Israel didn't really didn't start being widespread dickheads until '82, the influx of Russian Jews since the late '80s probably hasn't helped. Jews or no, filthy ass Russians are still filthy ass Russians.*




*DG excepted, as he's merely a filthy Russian.  :P

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Siege on August 22, 2012, 10:11:44 AM
Oh please, how many times have the palestinians done this to israelis.
A taste of their own poison will be good for them.
Stay classy Seige, stay classy. :rolleyes:
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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DGuller

Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 22, 2012, 10:53:05 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 22, 2012, 06:40:14 AM
My growing suspicion is that Israel has been Russified. Which will inevitably lead to it's decline and fall.

You've got a point:  while Israel didn't really didn't start being widespread dickheads until '82, the influx of Russian Jews since the late '80s probably hasn't helped. Jews or no, filthy ass Russians are still filthy ass Russians.*




*DG excepted, as he's merely a filthy Russian.  :P
:hug:

Razgovory

Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 22, 2012, 10:53:05 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 22, 2012, 06:40:14 AM
My growing suspicion is that Israel has been Russified. Which will inevitably lead to it's decline and fall.

You've got a point:  while Israel didn't really didn't start being widespread dickheads until '82, the influx of Russian Jews since the late '80s probably hasn't helped. Jews or no, filthy ass Russians are still filthy ass Russians.*




*DG excepted, as he's merely a filthy Russian.  :P

DG's okay.  I like to think of him as a "recovering Russian".
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Neil

Not just Russified, but also Arabified.  Siegebreaker isn't alone in his being practically Arab.
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Razgovory

Not much of a lynching if they don't kill the guy is it?  We call that "a beating" here in the US.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

HVC

You can't blame it all on the russians. Israel has had some nutty factions since the beginning. Religion and politics don't mesh well, no matter where you are.
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dps

Quote from: Razgovory on August 22, 2012, 12:08:00 PM
Not much of a lynching if they don't kill the guy is it?  We call that "a beating" here in the US.

The article did at least put "lynching" in quotation marks, but yeah, it's not a lynching unless they string the guy up by his neck until dead.  The use of the term seems to be intended to cause an emotional response.

sbr

Quote from: dps on August 22, 2012, 04:12:40 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 22, 2012, 12:08:00 PM
Not much of a lynching if they don't kill the guy is it?  We call that "a beating" here in the US.

The article did at least put "lynching" in quotation marks, but yeah, it's not a lynching unless they string the guy up by his neck until dead.  The use of the term seems to be intended to cause an emotional response.

I'm not really interested in a definition debate, but does a lynching have to be by hanging?  I always thought it was any type of illegal mob killing, they just most often happened to be by hanging.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: sbr on August 22, 2012, 04:41:49 PM
I'm not really interested in a definition debate, but does a lynching have to be by hanging?  I always thought it was any type of illegal mob killing, they just most often happened to be by hanging.

I never heard it used except to describe a hanging, and I've read about plenty of cases of mob execution (e.g. the pogroms) that don't use the word.

For example didn't Medgar Evers and The White Dude get shot?  Never heard that referred to as a lynching.  Of the black girls that got burned in that church.