Europa Universalis IV announced

[crazy canuck]

There is a mode called new economy on steam what changes the trade system.Seems more realistic than the original trade system.Added a lot of new products and realistic prices  (for example cacao what produced in america has very high price.)The mod also added new trade routes what are just fantastic.

Yep, I have been playing with it.  I like it a lot more than vanilla. 

[Anatron]

There is a mode called new economy on steam what changes the trade system.Seems more realistic than the original trade system.Added a lot of new products and realistic prices  (for example cacao what produced in america has very high price.)The mod also added new trade routes what are just fantastic.

Yep, I have been playing with it.  I like it a lot more than vanilla.

I just found my favorite trade products in this mod:

Beer and opium! 

The Golden age loading screen mod is also worth to install.

[DGuller]

It makes sense for wool provinces to not be able to build manufactories.  After all, if you produced wool, it meant that you were a hopelessly backward subsistence economy, not a textile powerhouse.

[garbon]

So what's up with the Timurids having Uzbek as their primary culture?

[Queequeg]

So what's up with the Timurids having Uzbek as their primary culture?

What is inaccurate about that?

1444 starts are awful. Constant revolution outside of my borders. Chaos. No strong polities to fight.

[Anatron]

So what's up with the Timurids having Uzbek as their primary culture?

It changes when you form the Mughals.

[Anatron]

So what's up with the Timurids having Uzbek as their primary culture?

Just found on wiki.

The first ruler of Timurids:

Emir Timur
Reign   1370–1405
Coronation   1370, Balkh
Titles   Timur Lang (Timur the Lame), Beg, Mirza, Gurkani
Born   9 April 1336
Birthplace   Kesh, Chagatai Khanate (Now in Uzbekistan)

But far as I know they were Mongols before the invasion of Persian area.Then they become Turko-Mongol.Later Indian, after fleeing to India and founding the Mughal dynasty.

[Solmyr]

Timur is one of those people who are fought over by all the Stans. They are like the Balkantards of Central Asia about this.

[Anatron]

Timur is one of those people who are fought over by all the Stans. They are like the Balkantards of Central Asia about this.

Lol,what about the nations who attacked lesser advanced nation to plunder them like the british,dutch,portugals,france,spainsh etc?
or the amercians who annihilated the indians in Northa America?

They are not *tards?

"Glorious" nations build themself on the corpse of others..
I see no difference between a mongol a turk or a british etc.
They all want to rule over others,and all did the same way by destroying others.

[DGuller]

EU4 should have Tracksuit idea for the Balkan nations - 50% faster cultural conversion.

[garbon]

Hmm...Ulugh Beg was dead and buried (Timurid dynasty was even gone in my version of the Tims) and yet I got an event about him wanting to build an observatory.

[Tamas]

Timur is one of those people who are fought over by all the Stans. They are like the Balkantards of Central Asia about this.

Lol,what about the nations who attacked lesser advanced nation to plunder them like the british,dutch,portugals,france,spainsh etc?
or the amercians who annihilated the indians in Northa America?

They are not *tards?

"Glorious" nations build themself on the corpse of others..
I see no difference between a mongol a turk or a british etc.
They all want to rule over others,and all did the same way by destroying others.

Dude, you do not know Balkantards. they infest the Paradox forums with endless arguments over who ethnic cleansed whom from XY Bosnian/Croatian/Romanian village, and whether a 67%-33% ethnic ratio in a province is historically correct, or Paradox is deliberately destroying the Serbian/Bosnian/Romanian nation by making it a 64%-36% one.

Because of them, the EU4 forum is full of needless cultural QQ threads instead of discussing trade and insane tribal treasuries.

[Solmyr]

We are lucky Paradox doesn't seem to have a lot of customers in Central Asia, or we'd also be seeing threads on how some local shithole should be Uzbek/Kazakh/Turkmen/Kirgiz.

[Valmy]

Timur is one of those people who are fought over by all the Stans. They are like the Balkantards of Central Asia about this.

Lol,what about the nations who attacked lesser advanced nation to plunder them like the british,dutch,portugals,france,spainsh etc?
or the amercians who annihilated the indians in Northa America?

They are not *tards?

"Glorious" nations build themself on the corpse of others..
I see no difference between a mongol a turk or a british etc.
They all want to rule over others,and all did the same way by destroying others.

Meh all nations have done this, just some on smaller scales since that was all they were capable of.

But, in any case, nobody is calling the Brits glorious here or the Balkan nations inferior, we are talking about the idiocy of their nationalists.

[The Brain]

Timur is one of those people who are fought over by all the Stans. They are like the Balkantards of Central Asia about this.

Lol,what about the nations who attacked lesser advanced nation to plunder them like the british,dutch,portugals,france,spainsh etc?
or the amercians who annihilated the indians in Northa America?

They are not *tards?

"Glorious" nations build themself on the corpse of others..
I see no difference between a mongol a turk or a british etc.
They all want to rule over others,and all did the same way by destroying others.

Meh all nations have done this, just some on smaller scales since that was all they were capable of.

But, in any case, nobody is calling the Brits glorious here or the Balkan nations inferior, we are talking about the idiocy of their nationalists.

Swedes especially have complained that it is way too weak in the game compared to history.