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MadImmortalMan

Quote from: merithyn on July 20, 2012, 11:09:45 PM
1994 - Baseball Strike

That's when I completely shut my mind to baseball. I was done. Had been a Mets fan my entire life, but I haven't seen a pro game since.

I did the exact same thing.
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Eh, can't really blame the players for wanting more money any more than one can blame the owners for not wanting to give it to them.
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Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 21, 2012, 04:42:24 PM
Eh, can't really blame the players for wanting more money any more than one can blame the owners for not wanting to give it to them.

Someone have one of those pretty graphs that show ticket prices over the years??
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Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 21, 2012, 04:42:24 PM
Eh, can't really blame the players for wanting more money any more than one can blame the owners for not wanting to give it to them.

Of course not.  It's what they do to achieve that goal that's blameworthy.

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Quote from: The Brain on July 21, 2012, 05:00:21 PM
If you take a huge dump on your customers you should expect some hard feelings.

They're the league's customers, not the union's. Anyway, the players who went on strike in '94 are nearly all retired now.
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Most of them were retarded already in 94.
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Valmy

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Quote from: Barrister on July 21, 2012, 01:23:53 AM
But some time in the mid-90s, MLB took the path less travelled in professional sport - we don't care about competitive balance.  Big money is indeed allowed to dominate.

The results on the field do not support that idea.  And anyway the league with the least competitive balance is the NBA not MLB.  Pretty much the only reason to watch is to see if somebody is going to stop the Lakers (and it looked for a second like that might be coming to an end...but no here come the Lakers again).

And high draft picks make a huge difference just like in any other sport.  Look what that has done for the Nationals.
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Quote from: Valmy on July 21, 2012, 05:57:16 PM
And anyway the league with the least competitive balance is the NBA not MLB.

That's nuts.  Any bottom dweller team is one lottery pick away from a dynasty.  Look at the Bulls pre-Jordan.  Cavs pre-James.

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Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 21, 2012, 06:09:55 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 21, 2012, 05:57:16 PM
And anyway the league with the least competitive balance is the NBA not MLB.

That's nuts.  Any bottom dweller team is one lottery pick away from a dynasty.  Look at the Bulls pre-Jordan.  Cavs pre-James.
Indeed.  The NBA, more than any other, is a hero-driven league.  It is the least team-oriented of all the team sports.
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Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 21, 2012, 06:09:55 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 21, 2012, 05:57:16 PM
And anyway the league with the least competitive balance is the NBA not MLB.

That's nuts.  Any bottom dweller team is one lottery pick away from a dynasty.  Look at the Bulls pre-Jordan.  Cavs pre-James.

Still, the Lakers and Celtics have managed to snap up half the championships between them.
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Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 21, 2012, 06:30:40 PM
Still, the Lakers and Celtics have managed to snap up half the championships between them.

The Lakers have won 31 out of 63 Western Conference titles since they entered the NBA in 1948.  Yeah so very balanced.
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Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 21, 2012, 06:09:55 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 21, 2012, 05:57:16 PM
And anyway the league with the least competitive balance is the NBA not MLB.

That's nuts.  Any bottom dweller team is one lottery pick away from a dynasty.  Look at the Bulls pre-Jordan.  Cavs pre-James.
Of the 26 NBA teams eight have never won a championship. That's nearly a full third of the league! The top 9 teams have won 83.8% of the championships!

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Quote from: Valmy on July 21, 2012, 05:57:16 PMAnd anyway the league with the least competitive balance is the NBA not MLB.  Pretty much the only reason to watch is to see if somebody is going to stop the Lakers (and it looked for a second like that might be coming to an end...but no here come the Lakers again).

It's plain to see that you don't really follow the NBA, as the Lakers haven't been amongst the 4 best teams for the last 2 seasons.

Valmy

Quote from: The Larch on July 21, 2012, 07:48:14 PM
It's plain to see that you don't really follow the NBA, as the Lakers haven't been amongst the 4 best teams for the last 2 seasons.

I know and I have enjoyed them merely being among the good teams and not the elite teams for a short while.  But judging from the offseason they will be back to form this year.
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