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Totally Loosing Perspective on Al-Queda

Started by Queequeg, May 09, 2009, 01:20:27 PM

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QuoteThe Keep Terrorists Out of America Act

It's a great name for a bill, and it will make great fodder for 2010 campaign ads -- who wants to be the guy who voted against keeping terrorists out of America? The bill was announced at a press conference this morning with the ranking members of each House committee present. It would require the President to get the consent of both the governor and state legislature before moving terrorists now being held at Gitmo to any U.S. state.
Here's a clip of Rep. Pete Hoekstra at the presser this morning explaining to a particularly thick reporter why the threat posed by al Qaeda detainees is different, and far more serious, that that posed by German prisoners of war. As Hoekstra explains, the Germans didn't kill three thousand American civilians as they went to work. In fact, one is struck by the degree to which German POWs were considered harmless. They were allowed to work among civilians, helping with all kinds of manual labor. Does anyone imagine that al Qaeda detainees will be allowed to do road work?

Posted by Michael Goldfarb
So the difference between Al-Queda and the Nazis is that....Al Queda kills civilians?  Seriously?  This quote is taken without a grain of salt by a Jewish writer?

Link.

I don't really understand why Islamic Terrorist types are so fantastically different from Bundists or German Spies, either. 

Shamelessly stolen from Yglesias.

I think this leads to a larger point; some people in this country appear to have blown up the threat posed by Islamic Terrorism into an existential threat, which, as long as they don't have nuclear or serious biological/chemical weapons, it won't be.  They'll never be comparable to the Nazis
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
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Berkut

Comparing the threat posed by the Nazi regime to the threat posed by terrorism, then turning around and transferring that analysis to the threat posed by German POWs to the threat posed by terrorist prisoners is a bat farcical, isn't it?

Could it be (follow me here) that while the Nazi regime was vastly more deadly than terrorism, particular German POWs were not at all dangerous, while particular Al Qaueda prisoners are extremely dangerous?

It is a lot to wrap your brain around, I know, but maybe sleep on it a little bit, let it percolate.
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Quote from: Berkut on May 09, 2009, 01:41:54 PM
Could it be (follow me here) that while the Nazi regime was vastly more deadly than terrorism, particular German POWs were not at all dangerous, while particular Al Qaueda prisoners are extremely dangerous?

It is a lot to wrap your brain around, I know, but maybe sleep on it a little bit, let it percolate.

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Phillip V

What I don't get is America put the Japanese into internment camps during WWII, but do not do the same to Muslims now. The difference is... Seriously? I think this leads to a larger point.

garbon

Quote from: Phillip V on May 09, 2009, 02:05:06 PM
What I don't get is America put the Japanese into internment camps during WWII, but do not do the same to Muslims now. The difference is... Seriously? I think this leads to a larger point.
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Quote from: Phillip V on May 09, 2009, 02:05:06 PM
What I don't get is America put the Japanese into internment camps during WWII, but do not do the same to Muslims now. The difference is... Seriously? I think this leads to a larger point.

It's this rule of law thing they have in America. Look it up.
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Quote from: Phillip V on May 09, 2009, 02:05:06 PM
What I don't get is America put the Japanese into internment camps during WWII, but do not do the same to Muslims now. The difference is... Seriously? I think this leads to a larger point.

Generally people aren't ok with that anymore.  Besides, from a practical standpoint, it's impossible to tell who is a muslim.  With a Japanese, it's easy, but muslims come from all ethnic groups.

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Quote from: Queequeg on May 09, 2009, 01:20:27 PM
I don't really understand why Islamic Terrorist types are so fantastically different from Bundists or German Spies, either. 

Shamelessly stolen from Yglesias.

I think this leads to a larger point; some people in this country appear to have blown up the threat posed by Islamic Terrorism into an existential threat, which, as long as they don't have nuclear or serious biological/chemical weapons, it won't be.  They'll never be comparable to the Nazis
You don't see how Islamic terrorists are different from Bundists? :huh:

There may well be some people in this country who have blown up the threat posed by Islamic terrorism into an existential threat, but this story has nothing to do with that.  It's a congressman grandstanding on the closure of Gitmo.

garbon

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Queequeg

Quote from: Berkut on May 09, 2009, 01:41:54 PM
Could it be (follow me here) that while the Nazi regime was vastly more deadly than terrorism, particular German POWs were not at all dangerous, while particular Al Qaueda prisoners are extremely dangerous?

Particular, as in spies with English language skills who could infiltrate most levels of American society? 

I'd say that, say, a German spy getting his hands on information sensitive to the Manhattan Project would have been terrible.  Worse than almost anything Qaueda could pull off.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

garbon

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I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

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garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.