Is the video game industry dying? Like Languish?

Started by CountDeMoney, June 03, 2012, 11:57:11 PM

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Viking

#15
June 04, 2012, 04:05:43 AM
The thing about westerns in general (including western action, western drama, western gay pron and western chick flicks) is that the setting permits a form of suspension of disbelief similar to fantasy or sci-fi. In addition to permitting the id of american self-realization full scope for action.

Basically westerns permit you to shoot somebody without having to explain away how you avoided getting arrested by the police. That said, I have always seen the "True Western (tm)" to be about the conflict between order and freedom. The Frontier is a place where order is coming and that drives all characters either explicitly or unconciously. 
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#16
June 04, 2012, 05:24:28 AM
QuoteBasically westerns permit you to shoot somebody without having to explain away how you avoided getting arrested by the police.

Not understanding what your saying here and/or the context.
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#17
June 04, 2012, 05:25:53 AM
Read Syt's article then.
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#18
June 04, 2012, 05:45:02 AM
Consoles suck.  PC games should rule.

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#19
June 04, 2012, 05:55:22 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 04, 2012, 05:25:53 AM
Read Syt's article then.

OK. What does that have to do with the statement?
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#20
June 04, 2012, 07:11:56 AM
A 60$ price point of a game is simply too much.
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CountDeMoney

#21
June 04, 2012, 07:15:56 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 04, 2012, 07:11:56 AM
A 60$ price point of a game is simply too much.

That's why replay value is so damned important in SP;  if you're not an MP head like I am, you'll never get your money's worth.  If BF3 were a cassette tape, I'd be on my 4th copy wearing that fucker out from playing it, but games need to have as much as a robust SP mode to maintain that value--if it doesn't, then yeah, $60 is a poor price point.

Fate

#22
June 04, 2012, 07:30:56 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 04, 2012, 07:11:56 AM
A 60$ price point of a game is simply too much.
Eh. No way, it's pretty damn reasonable considering how much you can play some of those games.

Diablo 3 at $60 is a steal. How many dollars per hour do most people end up spending on that game? I've put in over 50 hours since launch. I will probably put in several hundred by the time I get sick of it. A hooker would set me back $200 for an hour of fun. A movie would cost me $12 for 2 hours. This is about as cheap as entertainment gets.

CountDeMoney

#23
June 04, 2012, 07:35:12 AM
Quote from: Fate on June 04, 2012, 07:30:56 AM
How many dollars per hour do most people end up spending on that game? I've put in over 50 hours since launch. I will probably put in several hundred by the time I get sick of it. A hooker would set me back $200 for an hour of fun. A movie would cost me $12 for 2 hours. This is about as cheap as entertainment gets.

Calculating the price versus hours played, I think BF3 owes me money.

Neil

#24
June 04, 2012, 07:51:55 AM
Quote from: Syt on June 04, 2012, 02:41:51 AM
I do agree with the article, though, that generic shooters are reaching the point of oversaturation, similar to RTS in the style of C&C, WC, AoE before them.
And before them there were the 1st wave of FPS games (Doom and it's million clones), and before that the flight sims.
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#25
June 04, 2012, 08:03:13 AM
Quote from: Fate on June 04, 2012, 07:30:56 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 04, 2012, 07:11:56 AM
A 60$ price point of a game is simply too much.
Eh. No way, it's pretty damn reasonable considering how much you can play some of those games.

Diablo 3 at $60 is a steal. How many dollars per hour do most people end up spending on that game? I've put in over 50 hours since launch. I will probably put in several hundred by the time I get sick of it. A hooker would set me back $200 for an hour of fun. A movie would cost me $12 for 2 hours. This is about as cheap as entertainment gets.

Diablo 3 is not a console game, (Yet, anyway).

But it's the exception, most games on do not have D3s quality and polish.

There's cheaper entertainment out there. There's a billion app on the app store that cost ~5$. That's what the Gaming industry is against.

Hookers, really? Now that's a family oriented activity. :rolleyes:
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#26
June 04, 2012, 08:08:45 AM
They need to make a hooker that's fun for the whole family.
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#27
June 04, 2012, 08:15:26 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 04, 2012, 08:08:45 AM
They need to make a hooker that's fun for the whole family.

They did.  He sucked.

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#28
June 04, 2012, 08:16:25 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 04, 2012, 08:03:13 AM
Hookers, really? Now that's a family oriented activity. :rolleyes:

With many of the top console games rated M are they really family oriented activities? :huh:
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#29
June 04, 2012, 08:18:29 AM
I love the Western.  They're up there with gangsters as like the ur-genre for movies.  Both are so open to changing interpretations.  They're not so much genres as a series of tropes which can be used while directors/writers/actors do their thing, whatever that may be.
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