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Started by CountDeMoney, April 12, 2012, 09:35:41 PM

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garbon

I'm a non-fucking faggot...I'm Marti? :(
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This thread reminds me of my foolproof detection method for discovering fucking faggots.  All you have to do is ask someone if they hate Return of the Jedi.  If they say yes, they're a fucking faggot.
If they say no, they are also fucking faggots.
No, probably not.
Only a fucking faggot would say that.  It's foolproof, as you say.
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In the MMORPG alien NPCs talk a lot about "chunky faggota". :hmm:
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Caliga

I actually like ROTJ, but I agree that Empire is way better.  But I always found the Jabba scenes to be awesome, as well as the final battle on the Death Star, Vader's death, etc.  The Endor scenes... :x
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Viking

Quote from: Caliga on April 14, 2012, 05:21:00 AM
I actually like ROTJ, but I agree that Empire is way better.  But I always found the Jabba scenes to be awesome, as well as the final battle on the Death Star, Vader's death, etc.  The Endor scenes... :x

If they had made the Ewoks a tribe of Wookies and had the imperial shuttle full of advanced weaponry to buy the support of one of the wookie tribes then that whole thing would have made much more sense. The Ewoks pissed me off at the time and I was 8 back then.
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First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

DontSayBanana

My inner Lucas apologist always told me the Ewoks were just poorly costumed- that they were meant to be essentially little furry lumps of muscle.  An angry wookiee might be able to pull the arms off a gundark, but I figured the average angry ewok could still pull the arms off a stormtrooper.  Since the garrison's heavy vehicle complement seemed to only be 4 AT-STs and 1 AT-AT, it seemed believable to me that the rebels could whip the little fellas into a frenzy and take out a good enough portion of the foot soldiers to even the odds.  It also made the slingshot scenes a little more palatable- it was a lot easier to stomach when I figured the stormies were being pelted with the equivalent of a small avalanche.
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Syt

I think GL said a few years ago that (retcon alert) the Ewok attack was only a diversion at the bunker back door, not a full fledged frontal assault.
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DontSayBanana

Quote from: Syt on April 14, 2012, 06:35:06 AM
I think GL said a few years ago that (retcon alert) the Ewok attack was only a diversion at the bunker back door, not a full fledged frontal assault.

:bleeding: One shuttle.  One freaking shuttle which held, what, a squad of 20?  No armored troops, no suppression fire (since the Rebels don't seem to be able to drop a pair of stormies and "liberate" an E-WEB)...

Perfect segue: thank God Coppola didn't let Lucas do Apocalypse Now. <_<
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Berkut

I like to think of the entire Ewok thing as propaganda. Probably not at all what REALLY happened, but it made for a nice PR story, and who was there to say different than the official Rebel sources?

I've actually thought a "non-fiction" history of the Rebellion told in the style of a military historian that only used "canon" as an assumed biased source would be kind of a cool idea for a series of books.
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Viking

Quote from: Berkut on April 14, 2012, 08:24:35 AM
I like to think of the entire Ewok thing as propaganda. Probably not at all what REALLY happened, but it made for a nice PR story, and who was there to say different than the official Rebel sources?

I've actually thought a "non-fiction" history of the Rebellion told in the style of a military historian that only used "canon" as an assumed biased source would be kind of a cool idea for a series of books.

"And then this nobody from the ass end of tatooine who just miraculously happened to be the son of Lord Vader, Brother of Princess Senator Leia and Pupil of General Kenobi showed up at the last minute was given, despite his total lack of training on the equipment, an X-Wing fighter and got a lucky shot which destroyed the Death Star."

No, I think not. I prefer not knowing, trying to compare some idiotic tripe to the aura of coolness that missing history has in my head will only sully Star Wars. It's unnecessary exposition, just like Midichlorians.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Syt

Quote from: Berkut on April 14, 2012, 08:24:35 AM
I like to think of the entire Ewok thing as propaganda. Probably not at all what REALLY happened, but it made for a nice PR story, and who was there to say different than the official Rebel sources?

I've actually thought a "non-fiction" history of the Rebellion told in the style of a military historian that only used "canon" as an assumed biased source would be kind of a cool idea for a series of books.

There was a Star Wars comic arc that followed an Imperial company fighting desperately against a large number of primitive aliens. It was basically Zulu set in the Star Wars universe, with Imperials.



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—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Ed Anger

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Viking

Quote from: Ed Anger on April 14, 2012, 09:20:02 AM
A thousand nerd voices just cried out in orgasm.

If I can't root for the guys killing Imperial Storm Troopers then it isn't Star Wars. It was one of the things that made the first series unsatisfactory. Seeing Yoda fight side by side with Stormtroopers? Unpossible.

The first three movies were supposed to answer the question of how Anakin the good guy (as described by Alec Guiness in A New Hope) became Vader the bad guy. It didn't answer that question satisfactory to any level of credulity.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Razgovory

You guys are over thinking this.
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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

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