Kurtz versus Lucas

[The Brain]

Oh, please...the thing with those movies was exactly that:  so goody-goody, you knew exactly how it was going to unfold.  You knew Luke would survive, the Emperor would fail, and Vader would find salvation.

The throne room throwdown was easily the best part of the film, and belongs right up there with the Trench Run and Luke v. Vader Part 1.

NOOO

[CountDeMoney]

The throne room throwdown was easily the best part of the film,

Yeah, but that still ain't saying much.

and belongs right up there with the Trench Run and Luke v. Vader Part 1.

Sure, if you rank it #3 on that list.
But nothing will beat Vader schooling Skywalker.  He honestly tried to kill that snotty motherfucker.

[FunkMonk]

I'll agree with that.

I think the thing to note in Empire's duel was that Vader was sorta toying with Luke the whole time, and I take him at his word that he wanted Luke to join him to defeat the Emperor and to rule the galaxy together.

What's interesting about the ROTJ duel is that yeah, Luke has improved as a fighter but he still isn't really a match for Vader. He only defeats Vader once he UNLEASHES THE HATE-HULK after Vader taunts him about turning his sister to the dark side.

[DontSayBanana]

Sure, if you rank it #3 on that list.
But nothing will beat Vader schooling Skywalker.  He honestly tried to kill that snotty motherfucker.

Eh, what?  He chucked a few things at Luke and then that snotty motherfucker threw a temper tantrum and took a die-dive.  At least, in Jedi, he didn't let up until Luke beat the old man into a wheezy standstill.

[CountDeMoney]

I think the thing to note in Empire's duel was that Vader was sorta toying with Luke the whole time, and I take him at his word that he wanted Luke to join him to defeat the Emperor and to rule the galaxy together.

Oh, I disagree;  Vader's offensive stance and strikes were by no means parrying blows or attempts to string out the combat; he was definitely taking major cut strikes, and trying to whack that motherfucker.
As far as I'm concerned, my interpretation of Vader's approach was: if he joins, fine, if I kill him, that's fine, too.  He only tried to get Luke to join when he was no longer in a position to slice off his other fucking hand.

What's interesting about the ROTJ duel is that yeah, Luke has improved as a fighter but he still isn't really a match for Vader. He only defeats Vader once he UNLEASHES THE HATE-HULK after Vader taunts him about turning his sister to the dark side.

Concur.  Although I was immensely disappointed in Vader's inability to parry such an undisciplined attack.  He was, after all, bigger stronger faster.

[FunkMonk]

I'd have to watch the movie again, but if I remember correctly Vader is fighting one-handed throughout the first portion of the fight, which might indicate that he's pulling his punches a little. He's trying to trick Luke or injure him enough to turn him into a klondike bar with the carbonite freezer thingie.

You're right I think when they're fighting on the catwalk later on in the duel. Vader lunges viciously at him from ambuscade. I guess he's tired of Luke's crap now. Especially after Luke nicks him on the shoulder. I figure he's said "Fuck it, I'll do it live" and just takes Luke's hand off.

[CountDeMoney]

I'd have to watch the movie again, but if I remember correctly Vader is fighting one-handed throughout the first portion of the fight, which might indicate that he's pulling his punches a little. He's trying to trick Luke or injure him enough to turn him into a klondike bar with the carbonite freezer thingie.

You're right I think when they're fighting on the catwalk later on in the duel. Vader lunges viciously at him from ambuscade. I guess he's tired of Luke's crap now. Especially after Luke nicks him on the shoulder. I figure he's said "Fuck it, I'll do it live" and just takes Luke's hand off.

Sorta;  he's still aggressive in the carbonite room, though;  tried to curb stomp that fucker from the top of the stairs.

But once he pulled the trigger on the freezer and missed the opportunity, it was game on.

[Razgovory]

Too bad her ass didn't learn that in fucking princess school.

There is a whole school just for fucking princesses?  I wonder how I can enroll...

[Jacob]

There is a whole school just for fucking princesses?  I wonder how I can enroll...

Just dress like a princess.

[Neil]

This thread reminds me of my foolproof detection method for discovering fucking faggots.  All you have to do is ask someone if they hate Return of the Jedi.  If they say yes, they're a fucking faggot.

[CountDeMoney]

This thread reminds me of my foolproof detection method for discovering fucking faggots.  All you have to do is ask someone if they hate Return of the Jedi.  If they say yes, they're a fucking faggot.

Bet you used to masturbate into your stuffed Ewok.

[Sheilbh]

My God, can you imagine the train wreck Apocalypse Now would've been if Lucas had directed it?

Sweet Jesus

Stopped reading when I got to that bit

[Neil]

This thread reminds me of my foolproof detection method for discovering fucking faggots.  All you have to do is ask someone if they hate Return of the Jedi.  If they say yes, they're a fucking faggot.

Bet you used to masturbate into your stuffed Ewok.

Never had a stuffed Ewok.  Besides, why would anyone masturbate to anything Star Wars related other than Carrie Fisher in the gold bikini?

[grumbler]

This thread reminds me of my foolproof detection method for discovering fucking faggots.  All you have to do is ask someone if they hate Return of the Jedi.  If they say yes, they're a fucking faggot.

If they say no, they are also fucking faggots.

It is, indeed, foolproof.

[Neil]

This thread reminds me of my foolproof detection method for discovering fucking faggots.  All you have to do is ask someone if they hate Return of the Jedi.  If they say yes, they're a fucking faggot.

If they say no, they are also fucking faggots.

No, probably not.