Woman goes to ER, kicked out for trespassing, dies in jail.

[derspiess]

One thing that makes me a little suspicious about the article is how they put "Mom" in the headline rather than "woman".

Well... she probably chose not to afford whore pills.

[Razgovory]

One thing that makes me a little suspicious about the article is how they put "Mom" in the headline rather than "woman".

This becoming a thing with you isn't it?

Has been for a while.  If it were a guy who technically happened to have fathered children, do you think they would have used "Dad" in the headline??

Where exactly, are you going with this?

[Razgovory]

Not sure what either one did wrong. Lady says her ankle hurts, which isn't really a hospital matter, i don't think, and so they ask her to leave. She doesn,'t so cops are called. Later she dies. Even if the hospital had treated her ankle she'd still die from the blood clot.

Exactly who's matter is it when you have a part of your body hurting?  If they had treated her ankle, isn't it possible they would have found the blood clot?  I mean, that is the doctor's job isn't it?  To find out why what is wrong with a person.

If you got to a doctor or hospital becasue your ankle hurts they can't be expected to run a full battery of tests to see what else you may have. They would never work in a real world enviroment. grumbler says taht her ankle was indeed treated, in which case i really can't see what the hospital or the police did wrong.

Alright, if a doctor can't reasonably be expected to find out what's wrong with a person who comes in with a problem, who do you go to?

[HVC]

One thing that makes me a little suspicious about the article is how they put "Mom" in the headline rather than "woman".

This becoming a thing with you isn't it?

Has been for a while.  If it were a guy who technically happened to have fathered children, do you think they would have used "Dad" in the headline??

Where exactly, are you going with this?

if women didn't leave the kitchen they wouldn't be getting into all this trouble.

[Jacob]

Where exactly, are you going with this?

I think derSpiess is suggesting that since she was homeless and mentally ill, she does not deserve the sympathy that normally goes with someone being a mom.

[Razgovory]

One thing that makes me a little suspicious about the article is how they put "Mom" in the headline rather than "woman".

This becoming a thing with you isn't it?

Has been for a while.  If it were a guy who technically happened to have fathered children, do you think they would have used "Dad" in the headline??

Where exactly, are you going with this?

if women didn't leave the kitchen they wouldn't be getting into all this trouble.

True.  The tornado would have killed her long ago.

[HVC]

Not sure what either one did wrong. Lady says her ankle hurts, which isn't really a hospital matter, i don't think, and so they ask her to leave. She doesn,'t so cops are called. Later she dies. Even if the hospital had treated her ankle she'd still die from the blood clot.

Exactly who's matter is it when you have a part of your body hurting?  If they had treated her ankle, isn't it possible they would have found the blood clot?  I mean, that is the doctor's job isn't it?  To find out why what is wrong with a person.

If you got to a doctor or hospital becasue your ankle hurts they can't be expected to run a full battery of tests to see what else you may have. They would never work in a real world enviroment. grumbler says taht her ankle was indeed treated, in which case i really can't see what the hospital or the police did wrong.

Alright, if a doctor can't reasonably be expected to find out what's wrong with a person who comes in with a problem, who do you go to?

You die

Seriously, it's not like TV man, how can you infer that someone has blood clots, or cancer, or something from a twisted ankle or some other minor ailment. If you have symptoms of something they test for that. What else are they supposed to do? Your family doctor can run basic stuff like blood tests, blood pressure and the like to filter out some common diseases (especially if they run in your family), but in the end unless you have specific symptoms it's unlikely to get caught.

[CountDeMoney]

One thing that makes me a little suspicious about the article is how they put "Mom" in the headline rather than "woman".

And she was obviously white, or the article would've said "Black", right?

[Razgovory]

You die

Seriously, it's not like TV man, how can you infer that someone has blood clots, or cancer, or something from a twisted ankle or some other minor ailment. If you have symptoms of something they test for that. What else are they supposed to do? Your family doctor can run basic stuff like blood tests, blood pressure and the like to filter out some common diseases (especially if they run in your family), but in the end unless you have specific symptoms it's unlikely to get caught.

Oh, I thought that all that time that doctors spent in medical school might be useful for something.  I think that abnormally high blood pressure would be a symptom of blood clots.

[derspiess]

One thing that makes me a little suspicious about the article is how they put "Mom" in the headline rather than "woman".

And she was obviously white, or the article would've said "Black", right?

Article or headline?

[Eddie Teach]

Where exactly, are you going with this?

I think derSpiess is suggesting that since she was homeless and mentally ill, she does not deserve the sympathy that normally goes with someone being a mom.

Or that moms don't deserve special consideration that other women don't get.

[derspiess]

Where exactly, are you going with this?

I think derSpiess is suggesting that since she was homeless and mentally ill, she does not deserve the sympathy that normally goes with someone being a mom.

Or that moms don't deserve special consideration that other women don't get.

Wrong.  My point is that her having given birth to a couple children is not relevant to what happened to her.  It's certainly worth mentioning in the body of the article; I just don't think there's any good reason to mention it in the headline.

[grumbler]

Wrong.  My point is that her having given birth to a couple children is not relevant to what happened to her.  It's certainly worth mentioning in the body of the article; I just don't think there's any good reason to mention it in the headline.

I'm going to go against my natural inclination and agree with you.  Even a blind squirrel finds an occasional acorn.

[crazy canuck]

Seems to me this would would happen under any system.  Patient walks in complaining of a sprained ankle and gets treated for that and is discharged.  That happens even in the country with the best social health care system anywhere  .  How is it that any emergency room health care professional in any system could come to the conclusion that she was also suffering from blood clots which had first formed in her legs and had travelled to her lungs where they would kill her hours later.

[Razgovory]

Where exactly, are you going with this?

I think derSpiess is suggesting that since she was homeless and mentally ill, she does not deserve the sympathy that normally goes with someone being a mom.

Or that moms don't deserve special consideration that other women don't get.

Is her being born female relevant to what happened to her?

Wrong.  My point is that her having given birth to a couple children is not relevant to what happened to her.  It's certainly worth mentioning in the body of the article; I just don't think there's any good reason to mention it in the headline.