Woman goes to ER, kicked out for trespassing, dies in jail.

Started by jimmy olsen, April 02, 2012, 04:30:10 AM

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Razgovory

Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 02, 2012, 05:13:31 AM
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Well she did what they wanted.  Died quickly.
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garbon

Quote from: HVC on April 02, 2012, 10:33:07 AM
Not sure what either one did wrong. Lady says her ankle hurts, which isn't really a hospital matter, i don't think, and so they ask her to leave. She doesn,'t so cops are called. Later she dies. Even if the hospital had treated her ankle she'd still die from the blood clot.

Don't be reasonable! :angry:
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Razgovory

Quote from: HVC on April 02, 2012, 10:33:07 AM
Not sure what either one did wrong. Lady says her ankle hurts, which isn't really a hospital matter, i don't think, and so they ask her to leave. She doesn,'t so cops are called. Later she dies. Even if the hospital had treated her ankle she'd still die from the blood clot.

Exactly who's matter is it when you have a part of your body hurting?  If they had treated her ankle, isn't it possible they would have found the blood clot?  I mean, that is the doctor's job isn't it?  To find out why what is wrong with a person.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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derspiess

One thing that makes me a little suspicious about the article is how they put "Mom" in the headline rather than "woman".   
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Valmy

Quote from: Razgovory on April 02, 2012, 10:44:09 AM
Exactly who's matter is it when you have a part of your body hurting?  If they had treated her ankle, isn't it possible they would have found the blood clot?  I mean, that is the doctor's job isn't it?  To find out why what is wrong with a person.

Man I have found this to be a big problem even going to doctors outside the ER.  Unless I am able to ask the right question they often will not look at me too closely and naturally often miss things.  There is some sort fo law that they cannot spend more than a few minutes with a patient it seems like sometimes.  I mean are we really supposed to expect a mentally ill homeless person to accurately self diagnose?
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Quote from: HVC on April 02, 2012, 10:33:07 AM
Not sure what either one did wrong. Lady says her ankle hurts, which isn't really a hospital matter, i don't think, and so they ask her to leave. She doesn,'t so cops are called. Later she dies. Even if the hospital had treated her ankle she'd still die from the blood clot.
My understanding is that the hospital ER room did treat her ankle, but, as you say, she still died of the blood clots.

ER rooms cannot deal with long-term health issues.  They deal with emergencies (hence the name).  Having blood clots is not an emergency situation, it is a long-term one.

A tragic situation, but I don't see how it could have been avoided, without changing the entire health care system to force people like this to see their doctors, and forcing others to pay for those visits.
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Razgovory

I have a suspicion that if she didn't have a home, she didn't have a regular doctor either.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Razgovory on April 02, 2012, 11:58:41 AM
I have a suspicion that if she didn't have a home, she didn't have a regular doctor either.

Ron Paul would say she exercised her rights not to have either.

garbon

Quote from: grumbler on April 02, 2012, 11:42:55 AM
Quote from: HVC on April 02, 2012, 10:33:07 AM
Not sure what either one did wrong. Lady says her ankle hurts, which isn't really a hospital matter, i don't think, and so they ask her to leave. She doesn,'t so cops are called. Later she dies. Even if the hospital had treated her ankle she'd still die from the blood clot.
My understanding is that the hospital ER room did treat her ankle, but, as you say, she still died of the blood clots.

ER rooms cannot deal with long-term health issues.  They deal with emergencies (hence the name).  Having blood clots is not an emergency situation, it is a long-term one.

A tragic situation, but I don't see how it could have been avoided, without changing the entire health care system to force people like this to see their doctors, and forcing others to pay for those visits.

Agreed all around. :(
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Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on April 02, 2012, 11:14:44 AM
One thing that makes me a little suspicious about the article is how they put "Mom" in the headline rather than "woman".

This becoming a thing with you isn't it?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 02, 2012, 11:59:23 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 02, 2012, 11:58:41 AM
I have a suspicion that if she didn't have a home, she didn't have a regular doctor either.

Ron Paul would say she exercised her rights not to have either.

It was also her right to have that tornado destroy her house.  She apparently lived for some time in Berkley.  My Dad is from Berkley!  It's a real shit whole.  Richmond Heights on the other hand is pretty nice.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Jacob

Quote from: derspiess on April 02, 2012, 11:14:44 AM
One thing that makes me a little suspicious about the article is how they put "Mom" in the headline rather than "woman".

Well... she probably chose not to afford whore pills.

Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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derspiess

Quote from: Razgovory on April 02, 2012, 12:03:31 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 02, 2012, 11:14:44 AM
One thing that makes me a little suspicious about the article is how they put "Mom" in the headline rather than "woman".

This becoming a thing with you isn't it?

Has been for a while.  If it were a guy who technically happened to have fathered children, do you think they would have used "Dad" in the headline??
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HVC

Quote from: Razgovory on April 02, 2012, 10:44:09 AM
Quote from: HVC on April 02, 2012, 10:33:07 AM
Not sure what either one did wrong. Lady says her ankle hurts, which isn't really a hospital matter, i don't think, and so they ask her to leave. She doesn,'t so cops are called. Later she dies. Even if the hospital had treated her ankle she'd still die from the blood clot.

Exactly who's matter is it when you have a part of your body hurting?  If they had treated her ankle, isn't it possible they would have found the blood clot?  I mean, that is the doctor's job isn't it?  To find out why what is wrong with a person.
If you got to a doctor or hospital becasue your ankle hurts they can't be expected to run a full battery of tests to see what else you may have. They would never work in a real world enviroment. grumbler says taht her ankle was indeed treated, in which case i really can't see what the hospital or the police did wrong.
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