Anonymous got fucked?

[frunk]

And don't get me started on DoS-ing servers for lulz being portrayed as a heroic stand against The Man.

The whole ethos of hacking is sickening.

You mean apart from the hacking that lets you play computer games before they are released in your area?

[garbon]

And don't get me started on DoS-ing servers for lulz being portrayed as a heroic stand against The Man.

The whole ethos of hacking is sickening.

You mean apart from the hacking that lets you play computer games before they are released in your area?

[Neil]

And don't get me started on DoS-ing servers for lulz being portrayed as a heroic stand against The Man.

The whole ethos of hacking is sickening.

You mean apart from the hacking that lets you play computer games before they are released in your area?

That's not hacking.

[frunk]

[That's not hacking.

Either the program is hacked to get around copy protection, or the server is hacked to get a copy, or ip spoofing is involved to pretend to be living in a different area.  Which of these isn't hacking?

[Tamas]

And don't get me started on DoS-ing servers for lulz being portrayed as a heroic stand against The Man.

The whole ethos of hacking is sickening.

You mean apart from the hacking that lets you play computer games before they are released in your area?

lol, well I would not call it hacking, the (in many cases talented, granted) people posing as hackers wouldn't call it hacking for sure.

Besides, I am not putting any high moral value on that. I pay for something, and I get it.

Had a few debates over stuff like this over the years with RL people. The IT crowd is quite prone to "I can do it because other people are careless/dumb, therefore it is okay" attitude, at least over here.
The "lol R you paying for a game? SRSLY?!" part has become a lot quieter, or probably I have got older and cut comm ties to teenage duchebags.
An other such topic is connecting to unsecured wi-fi routers.

[DontSayBanana]

Minor gripe, but I believe you guys are talking about cracking.  Hacking is just getting access.  Cracking is modification once the target platform has been accessed.  In terms of pirating video games, keygens are hacking, dropping replacement files into the executable path is cracking.

[frunk]

lol, well I would not call it hacking, the (in many cases talented, granted) people posing as hackers wouldn't call it hacking for sure.

Besides, I am not putting any high moral value on that. I pay for something, and I get it.

Had a few debates over stuff like this over the years with RL people. The IT crowd is quite prone to "I can do it because other people are careless/dumb, therefore it is okay" attitude, at least over here.
The "lol R you paying for a game? SRSLY?!" part has become a lot quieter, or probably I have got older and cut comm ties to teenage duchebags.
An other such topic is connecting to unsecured wi-fi routers.

By hacking I assume you meant what is probably better called cracking and not the more playful programmers.  Getting around region specific release dates, even if trivially easy, is still violating the desires of the publishers (regardless of how stupid they are) and isn't materially different from playing a cracked copy and buying a legit copy later.  It isn't hacking in the sense of doing something remotely clever, it's hacking to get around protections to get what you want.

I'd probably do something similar in your position, so I personally wouldn't call it wrong.  Still, the term fits.

[Neil]

[That's not hacking.

Either the program is hacked to get around copy protection, or the server is hacked to get a copy, or ip spoofing is involved to pretend to be living in a different area.  Which of these isn't hacking?

Using a proxy server to beat street dates isn't hacking.

[Neil]

Getting around region specific release dates, even if trivially easy, is still violating the desires of the publishers (regardless of how stupid they are) and isn't materially different from playing a cracked copy and buying a legit copy later.

Except that it doesn't involve pirating anything.

[Jaron]

I always knew Tamas was a cracker.

[Eddie Teach]

I always knew Tamas was a cracker.

[Razgovory]

The whole ethos of hacking is sickening.

You're adorable.

He's getting better.  Tamas has shown real improvement in his Eastern Europeaness.  Marty continues to wallow in it.

fuck you too

Hey, that was a complement!  We don't see you steal things left and right ore argue about territory with the Romanian guy anymore.  Big improvement.

[frunk]

Using a proxy server to beat street dates isn't hacking.

It's circumventing the protections put in place to preserve release dates, which is tough to distinguish from circumventing protections put in place to get a copy of the game before any of the release dates.

You are buying something before the seller wants to sell it to you.

[fhdz]

Hey, that was a complement!

Like "you don't sweat much for a fat guy".

Learn to make less backhanded compliments.

[Neil]

Using a proxy server to beat street dates isn't hacking.

It's circumventing the protections put in place to preserve release dates, which is tough to distinguish from circumventing protections put in place to get a copy of the game before any of the release dates.

You are buying something before the seller wants to sell it to you.

Not at all.  You're buying a legal copy through the North American digital distribution network.  It's a legal transaction.  That's not hacking.  If I had to think of an analog, it would be more like smuggling the products of civilization into Soviet-dominated Europe.