State Department sets a cost to renouncing citizenship- $450

Started by Lettow77, February 03, 2012, 11:45:29 AM

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garbon

#75
February 06, 2012, 11:39:48 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2012, 11:30:07 AM
Grabon, your schtick about San Francisco/NY/US is great and everybody else sucks is getting pretty tired.

Clearly I'm not the only one who would find it odd to give up American citizenship. That was at the heart of V's story that all the immigration agents found it odd.

That said, I find the inclusion of the US funny considering that all my early years here I disliked the whole of America. :D
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#76
February 06, 2012, 01:02:03 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 06, 2012, 11:39:48 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2012, 11:30:07 AM
Grabon, your schtick about San Francisco/NY/US is great and everybody else sucks is getting pretty tired.
Clearly I'm not the only one who would find it odd to give up American citizenship. That was at the heart of V's story that all the immigration agents found it odd.

That said, I find the inclusion of the US funny considering that all my early years here I disliked the whole of America. :D
Yeah, but immigration agents are retarded.  Your not supposed to be, unless your Martinusism is finally starting to express itself.
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#77
February 06, 2012, 01:04:24 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 06, 2012, 11:27:15 AM
Quote from: Neil on February 06, 2012, 11:22:57 AM
Quote from: garbon on February 06, 2012, 10:21:09 AM
I think I'd be shocked to if someone chose citizenship from a do-nothing country over that of the US.
That's because you're stupid.  What good does the status of the US as a superpower do for the average citizen, especially a dual citizen living abroad?
We're a bit better at protecting our citizens who weren't caught in the commission of a crime. More muscle and what not.  And then of course, there is the free access to the country.
You guys really aren't that good at it though.  Look at all those truck drivers who got their heads sawed off in Iraq.

Free access to the country doesn't really do your average dual citizen much good, especially when it comes with your punishing taxation regime.  Especially for someone with EU-area citizenship, the US doesn't really have much to offer.
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garbon

#78
February 06, 2012, 01:23:22 PM
Quote from: Neil on February 06, 2012, 01:04:24 PM
You guys really aren't that good at it though.  Look at all those truck drivers who got their heads sawed off in Iraq.

I'm not really sure a warzone is a great example. No citizenship would help you there.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Viking

#79
February 06, 2012, 02:24:51 PM
Quote from: Siege on February 05, 2012, 03:50:26 AM
blah blah. I still ain't talking to you.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 05, 2012, 09:33:17 AM
I ain't talking to you, either.

And yet here the posts are....

regarding the thread topic.. I'm pretty sure that the cost is much reduced from the figure as of 1863 for renouncing ones citizenship.
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#80
February 06, 2012, 02:58:33 PM
Did we plunge Singapore into a blackout in its deadly 50 degree winters when they caned that guy for spitting on a sidewalk or something?  No.

We should bring extraterritoriality back.
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mongers

#81
February 06, 2012, 03:08:49 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2012, 11:30:07 AM
Grabon, your schtick about San Francisco/NY/US is great and everybody else sucks is getting pretty tired.

QFT.
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The Brain

#82
February 06, 2012, 03:18:06 PM
Ain't no fucking schticks getting tired. I won't have it.
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Ideologue

#83
February 06, 2012, 03:37:40 PM
I still enjoy Garbon's schtick.  I can play off his East Coast elitism.
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garbon

#84
February 06, 2012, 03:41:06 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on February 06, 2012, 03:37:40 PM
I still enjoy Garbon's schtick.  I can play off his East Coast elitism.

It is dreadful to think of myself as someone from/living on the East Coast. :weep:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Ideologue

#85
February 06, 2012, 04:04:01 PM
See?  It's not tired. :D
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Barrister

#86
February 06, 2012, 04:21:58 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 06, 2012, 03:41:06 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on February 06, 2012, 03:37:40 PM
I still enjoy Garbon's schtick.  I can play off his East Coast elitism.

It is dreadful to think of myself as someone from/living on the East Coast. :weep:

I know - I hate to think of myself as living south of 60. :weep:
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#87
February 06, 2012, 05:35:21 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 06, 2012, 04:21:58 PM
I know - I hate to think of myself as living south of 60. :weep:

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#88
February 07, 2012, 12:43:39 AM Last Edit: February 07, 2012, 12:46:29 AM by Jacob
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2012, 11:30:07 AM
Grabon, your schtick about San Francisco/NY/US is great and everybody else sucks is getting pretty tired.

Should he at some point achieve a wider experience of the world you can rest assured that whatever that is will be elevated to exalted status as well. The thing is, the lad has only done so much that could be pegged as mildly interesting in his life - lived in a couple of cool big cities and gone to a prestigious school. Clearly he has a need to be smugly superior (and I'm pretty good at identifying that sort of thing) and that's all he has to hang it on.

Give it time and there'll be more added to the schtick.

Jacob

#89
February 07, 2012, 12:45:20 AM
Quote from: garbon on February 06, 2012, 01:23:22 PM
Quote from: Neil on February 06, 2012, 01:04:24 PM
You guys really aren't that good at it though.  Look at all those truck drivers who got their heads sawed off in Iraq.

I'm not really sure a warzone is a great example. No citizenship would help you there.

Outside of raging warzones, I don't think the US has a particular edge at protecting its citizens abroad compared to most other Western countries.
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