George Lucas to give up film-making because of Star Wars critics

Started by Kleves, January 18, 2012, 09:15:38 PM

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Neil

Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 19, 2012, 07:11:44 PM
I didn't get into Star Wars until my late teens, so I vociferously disagree.
Yeah, but your 'late teens' are analogous to most peoples 'childhoods'.  Bambiesque, and whatnot.
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Ideologue

Quote from: derspiess on January 19, 2012, 05:02:38 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on January 19, 2012, 04:00:23 PM
I've never seen any of the Godfather movies, except parts of the first.

:huh:  Really?  You need to do something about that.  The first two are some of the best cinema ever made.

Interestingly, I actually purchased than giant DVD collector's edition they had, but only as a gift for my dad.

Thing is, I'd not been a huge Coppola fan.  I hadn't liked the (original) Apocalypse Now, so I avoided The Godfather films, which seemed likely to be worse--organized crime movies < war movies.  But I really, really liked Redux, and his claret is delightful.  Thus, at some point, you're quite right, I do need to watch at least the first two Godfathers.
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garbon

I watched The Godfather 1 and 2 on the same day. I think I had watched that horrible Amelia movie earlier that day. :(
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garbon

Quote from: Neil on January 19, 2012, 08:43:49 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 19, 2012, 07:11:44 PM
I didn't get into Star Wars until my late teens, so I vociferously disagree.
Yeah, but your 'late teens' are analogous to most peoples 'childhoods'.  Bambiesque, and whatnot.

I still don't understand his statement as per my recollection, I'm younger than Tim and when I watched the Star Wars films in my early teens...I was behind the curve as everyone had seen them before.
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Ideologue

Perhaps leukemia is more time-consuming than generally thought.
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garbon

Quote from: Ideologue on January 19, 2012, 11:12:04 PM
Perhaps leukemia is more time-consuming than generally thought.

I don't really see why he'd use himself as evidence - if that was the reason. He's point of view would be irrelevant, no?
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: garbon on January 19, 2012, 11:13:27 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on January 19, 2012, 11:12:04 PM
Perhaps leukemia is more time-consuming than generally thought.

I don't really see why he'd use himself as evidence - if that was the reason. He's point of view would be irrelevant, no?
I'm saying my opinion is not tainted by childhood nostalgia.
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Ideologue

Quote from: garbon on January 19, 2012, 11:13:27 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on January 19, 2012, 11:12:04 PM
Perhaps leukemia is more time-consuming than generally thought.

I don't really see why he'd use himself as evidence - if that was the reason. He's point of view would be irrelevant, no?

Well, regardless of his unpleasant childhood, in theory Tim would have more experience of fiction in his late teens than a five and six year old, and would therefore be able to judge the Star Wars films from the point of view of a young adult, if perhaps one with a shorter film-watching history than others.  Thus his opinion is germane to a greater or lesser degree.
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garbon

Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 19, 2012, 11:18:02 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 19, 2012, 11:13:27 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on January 19, 2012, 11:12:04 PM
Perhaps leukemia is more time-consuming than generally thought.

I don't really see why he'd use himself as evidence - if that was the reason. He's point of view would be irrelevant, no?
I'm saying my opinion is not tainted by childhood nostalgia.

It is tained by Timness. :mellow:
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Neil

Quote from: Ideologue on January 19, 2012, 11:19:04 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 19, 2012, 11:13:27 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on January 19, 2012, 11:12:04 PM
Perhaps leukemia is more time-consuming than generally thought.

I don't really see why he'd use himself as evidence - if that was the reason. He's point of view would be irrelevant, no?

Well, regardless of his unpleasant childhood, in theory Tim would have more experience of fiction in his late teens than a five and six year old, and would therefore be able to judge the Star Wars films from the point of view of a young adult, if perhaps one with a shorter film-watching history than others.  Thus his opinion is germane to a greater or lesser degree.
Wait a minute...  Haven't we already had this discussion?  Doesn't it end with Tim being an asshole because he hates ESB or something like that?
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Ideologue

Quote from: Neil on January 19, 2012, 11:46:48 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on January 19, 2012, 11:19:04 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 19, 2012, 11:13:27 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on January 19, 2012, 11:12:04 PM
Perhaps leukemia is more time-consuming than generally thought.

I don't really see why he'd use himself as evidence - if that was the reason. He's point of view would be irrelevant, no?

Well, regardless of his unpleasant childhood, in theory Tim would have more experience of fiction in his late teens than a five and six year old, and would therefore be able to judge the Star Wars films from the point of view of a young adult, if perhaps one with a shorter film-watching history than others.  Thus his opinion is germane to a greater or lesser degree.
Wait a minute...  Haven't we already had this discussion?  Doesn't it end with Tim being an asshole because he hates ESB or something like that?

I don't remember that.  But if so, boo.
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Valmy

Quote from: Neil on January 19, 2012, 08:36:14 PM
The Ewoks weren't any worse than Wookies.

In what sense?  The Ewoks main failing was as a plot device.  There was only one Wookie and he was not a plot device but a supporting character.
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Quote from: Ideologue on January 19, 2012, 11:19:04 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 19, 2012, 11:13:27 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on January 19, 2012, 11:12:04 PM
Perhaps leukemia is more time-consuming than generally thought.

I don't really see why he'd use himself as evidence - if that was the reason. He's point of view would be irrelevant, no?

Well, regardless of his unpleasant childhood, in theory Tim would have more experience of fiction in his late teens than a five and six year old, and would therefore be able to judge the Star Wars films from the point of view of a young adult, if perhaps one with a shorter film-watching history than others.  Thus his opinion is germane to a greater or lesser degree.

I was already in high school when the original came out and had graduated by the time The Empire Strikes Back was released.  Grumbler is older than I am.  I don't think our opinions are particularly tainted by childhood memories, either.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Ideologue on January 19, 2012, 09:40:20 PM
Thing is, I'd not been a huge Coppola fan.  I hadn't liked the (original) Apocalypse Now, so I avoided The Godfather films, which seemed likely to be worse--organized crime movies < war movies. 

There are dozens of better war movies than Apocalypse Now. The Godfather is *the* mob movie to see if you only see one(though I personally enjoy Pulp Fiction more).
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