Stupid question: When Black and white people have seeeeex!

[Razgovory]

Join the club. If it were valid I'd be danish. I have one danish ancestor 16 generations ago

You could be American. They absolutely LOVE to detail where they ancestors come from. 

Helpful tip for Americans: if you've always lived in America and don't speak the language, you're not [insert supposed nationality]. Pisses me off each and every time.

Kevin

What if you've always lived in America and do speak the language?

[PDH]

Helpful tip for Americans: if you've always lived in America and don't speak the language, you're not [insert supposed nationality]. Pisses me off each and every time.

Kevin

Fuck off, Celto-Roman.

[Korea]

Not nearly as embarassing as the friend of my wife's sister who had her first baby with definite half-Black features ... when her fiancee was Chinese.

:pinchL

Allegedly, an amazing domestic scene broke out in the delivery room.

Way we heard the story the first time, was that Chinese Guy had booted his fiancee out of his house (he had money) right after she gave birth. We all assumed he was a pig and a jerk. Until this tiny added detail came to light, which makes it more explicable.

He took her back though, and she has another kid. We assume it's his. At least, the other kid isn't half-Black.

People are amazing creatures. Jeez.

[The Brain]

Join the club. If it were valid I'd be danish. I have one danish ancestor 16 generations ago

You could be American. They absolutely LOVE to detail where they ancestors come from. 

Helpful tip for Americans: if you've always lived in America and don't speak the language, you're not [insert supposed nationality]. Pisses me off each and every time.

Kevin

What if you've always lived in America and do speak the language?

Check the passport. And if the person doesn't have a passport he is probably American.

[The Brain]

Not nearly as embarassing as the friend of my wife's sister who had her first baby with definite half-Black features ... when her fiancee was Chinese.

:pinchL

Allegedly, an amazing domestic scene broke out in the delivery room.

Way we heard the story the first time, was that Chinese Guy had booted his fiancee out of his house (he had money) right after she gave birth. We all assumed he was a pig and a jerk. Until this tiny added detail came to light, which makes it more explicable.

He took her back though, and she has another kid. We assume it's his. At least, the other kid isn't half-Black.

People are amazing creatures. Jeez.

Not really.

[Viking]

Join the club. If it were valid I'd be danish. I have one danish ancestor 16 generations ago

You could be American. They absolutely LOVE to detail where they ancestors come from. 

Helpful tip for Americans: if you've always lived in America and don't speak the language, you're not [insert supposed nationality]. Pisses me off each and every time.

Kevin

We settler cultures all value our heritage. Anyways, the one Danish woman predates the Pilgrims.

[PDH]

We settler cultures all value our heritage. Anyways, the one Danish woman predates the Pilgrims.

Predating is important - it lets you know what to expect when you do go out.

[Eochaid]

Fuck off, Celto-Roman.

It just pisses me off when I hear people referring to the Irish or Italian (or whatever) communities in some American state or another. Whatever link these guys had is long dead and they're just perpetuating some kind of fossilised version of a culture.

I can understand keeping track of you origins (we all do it), but this is more akin to pathetically clinging on to something long dead. Seriously, back in the 80s' and 90s' the IRA was funded mainly by Irish Americans when the majority of REAL Irish people (in Eire) just wanted peace. WTF was that all about?

Do people think that because they keep an Irish flag and drink pints on St Paddy's they're Irish?

Kevin

[derspiess]

Helpful tip for Americans: if you've always lived in America and don't speak the language, you're not [insert supposed nationality]. Pisses me off each and every time.

Kevin

Note to self: self-identify as German-American whenever Echoshade joins a thread.

[PDH]

Do people think that because they keep an Irish flag and drink pints on St Paddy's they're Irish?

Kevin

Nope, they think they are Irish-Americans.  There is a sense that if you don't know where you came from (even if invented, like most family histories) you don't know who you are.

[Malthus]

Fuck off, Celto-Roman.

It just pisses me off when I hear people referring to the Irish or Italian (or whatever) communities in some American state or another. Whatever link these guys had is long dead and they're just perpetuating some kind of fossilised version of a culture.

I can understand keeping track of you origins (we all do it), but this is more akin to pathetically clinging on to something long dead. Seriously, back in the 80s' and 90s' the IRA was funded mainly by Irish Americans when the majority of REAL Irish people (in Eire) just wanted peace. WTF was that all about?

Do people think that because they keep an Irish flag and drink pints on St Paddy's they're Irish?

Kevin

Ethnicity is mostly subjective. People are what they self-identify as. There aren't any rational rules for this, and no-one is really "in charge" of deciding whose identity is "real" and whose is not.

Very often these contrasting identities cause problems, but the solution isn't to convince one group that they aren't really who they think they are.

The exception is those who have taken on an identity as a deliberate sham, in bad faith (see "Jews for Jesus"  ).

Also, people tend to have more than one way of measuring identity, depending on whom they are contrastisng with.

[Brazen]

Nope, they think they are Irish-Americans.  There is a sense that if you don't know where you came from (even if invented, like most family histories) you don't know who you are.

What happened to all the English-Americans? And why don't they celebrate St George's day?

[Eochaid]

 Still is a very American complex if you ask me.

I might be out on a limb here, but it feels like Americans don't feel like being "American" is a legitimate identity. 

Kevin

[Grey Fox]

Nope, they think they are Irish-Americans.  There is a sense that if you don't know where you came from (even if invented, like most family histories) you don't know who you are.

What happened to all the English-Americans? And why don't they celebrate St George's day?

Emigrated to Canada.

[garbon]

Is this really a thread?