Simplicity Vs Complexity In Modern Living.

[mongers]

I don't really understand how one design flaw that was later rectified has any role in this.

But why make that mistake in the first place with something thats the defining function of a phone ?  Most other manufacturers seemed to have been able to avoid that problem.

[garbon]

I don't really understand how one design flaw that was later rectified has any role in this.

But why make that mistake in the first place with something thats the defining function of a phone ?  Most other manufacturers seemed to have been able to avoid that problem.

I think that's a side question and not really on about simplicity or lack thereof.

I think as smartphones have shown the defining function of a phone is evolving.  Much in the same way that the internet evolved the defining function of a computer.

[crazy canuck]

I don't really understand how one design flaw that was later rectified has any role in this.

But why make that mistake in the first place with something thats the defining function of a phone ?  Most other manufacturers seemed to have been able to avoid that problem.

If it was just a phone it would not make my life more simple.  The fact that it is so much more than a phone and it is simple to use does simplify my life.

[Josquius]

Not per the opening context of this thread. The first post was explicitly against the complexity of smartphones.

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I imagine it takes quite a lot of thought to make a single speed bike worth it, though it is the 'simpler' option.

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I'm not sure it is, sometimes the simple solution is the best, cheapest, quickest, most obvious solution to a specific problem.

But most bikes are sold as consumer durables, where a longer list of functions and specifications, wins out over simpler designs, the consumers thinks they're getting more, where as it's just extra stuff they have to move with their own limited motive power. 

So many people end up with a bike that has 27+ gears (many not usable), front and rear suspension and impressive looking tyres rather than asking someone experience to help them find the bike for their needs.

heh, I remember back when I was a kid and the amount of "gears" your bike had was seen as how good your bike was and a defining status symbol.

[mongers]

Not per the opening context of this thread. The first post was explicitly against the complexity of smartphones.

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I imagine it takes quite a lot of thought to make a single speed bike worth it, though it is the 'simpler' option.

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I'm not sure it is, sometimes the simple solution is the best, cheapest, quickest, most obvious solution to a specific problem.

But most bikes are sold as consumer durables, where a longer list of functions and specifications, wins out over simpler designs, the consumers thinks they're getting more, where as it's just extra stuff they have to move with their own limited motive power. 

So many people end up with a bike that has 27+ gears (many not usable), front and rear suspension and impressive looking tyres rather than asking someone experience to help them find the bike for their needs.

heh, I remember back when I was a kid and the amount of "gears" your bike had was seen as how good your bike was and a defining status symbol.

Oddly I popped out this afternoon to a town 10 miles away, to pick up something and it only took me 35-36 minutes to get back, I'd assumed a single speed would have been a lot slower.