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Started by Razgovory, January 03, 2012, 03:24:19 PM

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MadImmortalMan

Up until last month or so, I would not have been able to follow all this Thomas nonsense at all. Sadly, I've spent a great deal of time hanging out with my nephews in various medical establishments recently, and it's the only thing that keeps them quiet.

Oh, and Alec Baldwin is in it, so it can't be that conservative.  :P


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garbon

Quote from: Valmy on January 04, 2012, 12:16:20 PM
First what you said and the second one is the show is meant for boys.  In shows meant for girls every character is a girl except for a few token boys and the opposite for shows for boys.  So her harping on the gender imbalance was pretty funny.  I was thinking 'did this woman never watch TV as a child?'

:huh:

Maybe I'm just confused but I thought there were shows marketed to both genders.
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Valmy

Quote from: garbon on January 04, 2012, 02:07:38 PM
:huh:

Maybe I'm just confused but I thought there were shows marketed to both genders.

Of course there were a few.  But some were more geared towards one or the other.
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Malthus

Quote from: garbon on January 04, 2012, 02:07:38 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 04, 2012, 12:16:20 PM
First what you said and the second one is the show is meant for boys.  In shows meant for girls every character is a girl except for a few token boys and the opposite for shows for boys.  So her harping on the gender imbalance was pretty funny.  I was thinking 'did this woman never watch TV as a child?'

:huh:

Maybe I'm just confused but I thought there were shows marketed to both genders.

I honestly do not know if girls like Thomas or not. Every boy I know does. For some reason, boys seem to like things like trains and cars more and girls things like stuffed toys and dolls more. A show composed of trains is likely to have an audience of boys whether its creator intended that or not.

I used to think this was all socialization and kids themselves would like both equally if they weren't prodded one way or the other by their parents or peers. I no longer believe this to be the case. In my experience it simply seems too ingrained and shows up too early and too strongly to be socialization.

What do you parents think? Agree/disagree?
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Valmy

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Quote from: Malthus on January 04, 2012, 02:26:27 PM
What do you parents think? Agree/disagree?

I was always in the nature camp.  That is not to say that all boys have some or all of the traits we associate with boys or girls with girls.  Of course they do not, but they generally do.  And think about it, if this was all socialization and not traits you are born with why would there be transgendered people?  Did socialization fail for them?  No that was just how they are.  Likewise being boyish is just how most boys are.  Being a parent and seeing it in action just reinforces it for me.  There was something very noticeably male about my son very early on.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

MadImmortalMan

I don't understand why such a small island needs so many trains. Or why all these steam engines are roving the place when they clearly have the technology for diesels and helicopters.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

Zoupa

Quote from: Ideologue on January 04, 2012, 01:08:15 AM
Grallon's fun because he's the Frenchest person on the forum.

wtf  <_<

Well I'm done trying to find you asian pussy. Et tu, Hunter?

Sheilbh

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on January 04, 2012, 02:30:57 PM
I don't understand why such a small island needs so many trains. Or why all these steam engines are roving the place when they clearly have the technology for diesels and helicopters.
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Malthus

Quote from: Zoupa on January 04, 2012, 02:40:53 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on January 04, 2012, 01:08:15 AM
Grallon's fun because he's the Frenchest person on the forum.

wtf  <_<

Well I'm done trying to find you asian pussy. Et tu, Hunter?

What we need is a head-to-head battle for French supremacy.

The winner is he who does not care with sufficient style.  ;)
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DGuller

Quote from: Valmy on January 04, 2012, 02:30:23 PM
There was something very noticeably male about my son very early on.
:shutup:

Ideologue

Quote from: Zoupa on January 04, 2012, 02:40:53 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on January 04, 2012, 01:08:15 AM
Grallon's fun because he's the Frenchest person on the forum.

wtf  <_<

Well I'm done trying to find you asian pussy. Et tu, Hunter?

See, that kind of pettiness?  Willingness to take affront for vague reasons?  You're on your way. :P

Besides, you can't be truly French until you're well into middle-age and everything bores you, even your own outrage.  You're too young to be fully French.
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Ideologue

Oh et P.S., quand avez-vous m'aider avec ca? Tous je me souviens, c'est vous vanter sur la quantite la chatte asiatique il a ete au Canada. Regardez ce modele!  Regardez ce modele!  JE NE VIS PAS LA.
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Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

Barrister

Quote from: Malthus on January 04, 2012, 02:26:27 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 04, 2012, 02:07:38 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 04, 2012, 12:16:20 PM
First what you said and the second one is the show is meant for boys.  In shows meant for girls every character is a girl except for a few token boys and the opposite for shows for boys.  So her harping on the gender imbalance was pretty funny.  I was thinking 'did this woman never watch TV as a child?'

:huh:

Maybe I'm just confused but I thought there were shows marketed to both genders.

I honestly do not know if girls like Thomas or not. Every boy I know does. For some reason, boys seem to like things like trains and cars more and girls things like stuffed toys and dolls more. A show composed of trains is likely to have an audience of boys whether its creator intended that or not.

I used to think this was all socialization and kids themselves would like both equally if they weren't prodded one way or the other by their parents or peers. I no longer believe this to be the case. In my experience it simply seems too ingrained and shows up too early and too strongly to be socialization.

What do you parents think? Agree/disagree?

I don't know what I thought it would be like, but it has been incredibly obvious that there's something deeply ingrained when Tim is playing with his toy cars.  My wife bought him a couple stuffed animals, tried to get him to play with them, but no dice.  It's got to have wheels.
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Malthus

Quote from: Barrister on January 04, 2012, 03:18:30 PM
I don't know what I thought it would be like, but it has been incredibly obvious that there's something deeply ingrained when Tim is playing with his toy cars.  My wife bought him a couple stuffed animals, tried to get him to play with them, but no dice.  It's got to have wheels.

My experience as well.

If there is one thing about young kids, they are not shy about expressing their preferences. Give them a lavishly expensive toy they do not like, they will toss it aside without a thought.  :lol:
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Valmy

Quote from: DGuller on January 04, 2012, 02:51:46 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 04, 2012, 02:30:23 PM
There was something very noticeably male about my son very early on.
:shutup:

:lol:

I meant in his personality traits fucker :P
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."