Israeli Jews to American Jews: "You're bad jews"

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Capetan Mihali

#15
December 02, 2011, 01:11:46 PM
Quote from: DGuller on December 02, 2011, 01:02:07 PM
Maybe in New York or in Florida, but an ideologically divided group of about 5 million in a country of 300 million is not exactly a block with unlimited power.

Ideologically divided on Israel-related issues, though?
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Valmy

#16
December 02, 2011, 01:15:59 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on December 02, 2011, 01:11:46 PM
Ideologically divided on Israel-related issues, though?

Well to be fair hardly anybody who matters in American politics is ideologically divided on Israel-related issues.
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Razgovory

#17
December 02, 2011, 03:22:01 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 02, 2011, 01:01:33 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 02, 2011, 12:47:39 PM
Maybe not all support - as JR said there are a lot of Christians in the US hoping for the end times and see Israel as the way to bring it on.  But doesnt it stand to reason that the Jewish vote in some parts of the country is also important to at least some politicians?

In what part of the country is the Jewish vote really significant enough to be that big of a deal?  They are less than 2% of the population and further their largest populations are in the most populous states.  Besides they overwhelmingly vote Democrat and it is not like the Republicans are anti-Israel.

Yeah, but it doesn't really hurt any politician to support Israel and there is little to gain for opposing it.  Same thing with the Cuban exile community.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

#18
December 02, 2011, 03:24:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 02, 2011, 03:22:01 PM
Yeah, but it doesn't really hurt any politician to support Israel and there is little to gain for opposing it.  Same thing with the Cuban exile community.

The Cuban exiles have the unique position of being important in a vital swing state.  But my primary point here is that it is not the Jewish community that is the main movers in the pro-Israel thing.  It is the Evangelical Christians...well and all those who just do not like Muslims and/or Arabs.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Admiral Yi

#19
December 02, 2011, 03:34:58 PM
I personally think the Cuban exiles popped their wad with Elian Gonzalez.  It's just a question of whichever Castro is still alive of presenting an opening.

Sheilbh

#20
December 02, 2011, 03:56:48 PM
The ad's been pulled, with some rather regretful press releases.
Let's bomb Russia!

Josephus

#21
December 02, 2011, 04:06:51 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 02, 2011, 03:24:01 PMwell and all those who just do not like Muslims and/or Arabs.

All Americans except Muslims and/or Arabs.
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Ed Anger

#22
December 02, 2011, 04:13:43 PM
I'd bone Bar Refaeli.
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Valmy

#23
December 02, 2011, 04:14:58 PM
Quote from: Josephus on December 02, 2011, 04:06:51 PM
All Americans except Muslims and/or Arabs.

Hush you!
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Slargos

#24
December 02, 2011, 05:01:31 PM
No jews is good jews. :smoke:

Ideologue

#25
December 02, 2011, 06:10:03 PM
Quote from: Josephus on December 02, 2011, 04:06:51 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 02, 2011, 03:24:01 PMwell and all those who just do not like Muslims and/or Arabs.

All Americans except Muslims and/or Arabs.

They should stop being such acceptable targets of my murderosity.
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Razgovory

#26
December 02, 2011, 07:12:34 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 02, 2011, 03:24:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 02, 2011, 03:22:01 PM
Yeah, but it doesn't really hurt any politician to support Israel and there is little to gain for opposing it.  Same thing with the Cuban exile community.

The Cuban exiles have the unique position of being important in a vital swing state.  But my primary point here is that it is not the Jewish community that is the main movers in the pro-Israel thing.  It is the Evangelical Christians...well and all those who just do not like Muslims and/or Arabs.

The Evangelical Zionists is a new phenomenon.  When Truman supported the Israelis it wasn't because of Evangelical Christians.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

fhdz

#27
December 02, 2011, 07:14:58 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 02, 2011, 07:12:34 PM
The Evangelical Zionists is a new phenomenon.

That's just utterly and completely inaccurate.
and the horse you rode in on

Razgovory

#28
December 02, 2011, 07:17:35 PM Last Edit: December 02, 2011, 07:22:05 PM by Razgovory
Quote from: fahdiz on December 02, 2011, 07:14:58 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 02, 2011, 07:12:34 PM
The Evangelical Zionists is a new phenomenon.

That's just utterly and completely inaccurate.

Oh?  I have alternative theory:  Fahdiz doesn't know what he's talking about.  I think it's a very robust theory with a bright future.  What do you think?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ideologue

#29
December 02, 2011, 07:21:57 PM
:lol:

I am pretty sure you're pretty wrong, Raz.  Though they've gotten a lot more attention in the past ten years or so.
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