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Started by Jacob, November 27, 2011, 11:50:18 PM

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garbon

Quote from: Ideologue on November 30, 2011, 01:15:48 PM
Yeah, that's just Michael Moore being crazy in a different, lesser way.

Really? You're giving Moore a free pass?
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Quote from: garbon on November 30, 2011, 10:33:49 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on November 30, 2011, 01:15:48 PM
Yeah, that's just Michael Moore being crazy in a different, lesser way.

Really? You're giving Moore a free pass?

Does that sentence really read that way to you?

I don't hate Moore, but I think he's really wrongheaded and loony.  I don't think he's as loony or as wrongheaded as a 9/11 truther (or Holocaust denier or moon hoaxer or birther or creationist).

Now, maybe if I were more familiar with his work, I might?  I've read one of his books (I forget which, but I liked it, it was about how America and capitalism suck) and I watched a few episodes of TV Nation (also enjoyable, I thought the one where he had a slave was pretty funny).  I've never seen a single one of his movies, in part because movies that claim the dignity of a documentary but wear their biases so clearly on their sleeves kind of creep me out.  I also feel that he is, like many of my anti-Bush comrades, a fascist-enabler, unable to distinguish between the bad practices used to whip up support for the Iraq War and its poor execution on one hand, and the fundamental rightness of the cause on the other.

No, I don't give him a free pass.
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MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Ideologue on November 30, 2011, 10:42:14 PM(I forget which, but I liked it, it was about how America and capitalism suck)

You're gonna have to be more specific.   :lol:
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Valmy

Quote from: garbon on November 30, 2011, 10:33:49 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on November 30, 2011, 01:15:48 PM
Yeah, that's just Michael Moore being crazy in a different, lesser way.

Really? You're giving Moore a free pass?

Calling Moore crazy is just being fair not giving him a free pass.
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Quote from: Ideologue on November 30, 2011, 04:19:13 PM
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Quote from: Ideologue on November 30, 2011, 04:19:13 PM
I like to think I generally comport myself in an affable manner.

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