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Started by alfred russel, April 28, 2009, 11:21:59 AM

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Razgovory

#15
April 28, 2009, 12:19:14 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 28, 2009, 12:17:17 PM
Steele didn't pull any punches:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_specter_switch

QuoteRepublican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele said in a statement: "Some in the Republican Party are happy about this. I am not. Let's be honest: Senator Specter didn't leave the GOP based on principles of any kind. He left to further his personal political interests because he knew that he was going to lose a Republican primary due to his left-wing voting record. Republicans look forward to beating Sen. Specter in 2010, assuming the Democrats don't do it first."

Now that's a guy I'm suprised has kept his job.
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Vince

#16
April 28, 2009, 12:40:29 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 28, 2009, 12:19:14 PM
Now that's a guy I'm suprised has kept his job.

Rush forgave him.  :contract:

Caliga

#17
April 28, 2009, 01:09:02 PM
Actually this makes perfect sense to me.  Specter is a RINO (has been for quite some time) and represents a state that has been trending increasingly Democratic for quite some time now.  I know he did it in the short-term to avoid losing the primary, but he should be a Democrat anyway based on his personal philosophies.
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Martinus

#18
April 28, 2009, 01:32:49 PM
Filibuster-proof. :yeah:

Another blow to the irrelephants. :P

fhdz

#19
April 28, 2009, 01:37:58 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 28, 2009, 01:32:49 PM
irrelephants

Really?  Did you really just type that out and hit "Post"?
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alfred russel

#20
April 28, 2009, 01:40:06 PM
Quote from: Berkut on April 28, 2009, 11:53:13 AM

Who is this "they"?

Did all the republicans get together and vote have Specter switch?


"They" are the majority of republicans that were apparently about to vote him off their ticket.
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ulmont

#21
April 28, 2009, 01:43:14 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 28, 2009, 01:32:49 PM
Filibuster-proof. :yeah:

Not really.  Trying to get Specter and Nelson to vote for cloture is still going to be a pain in the ass whether Specter is wearing the (R) jersey or the (D) jersey.

alfred russel

#22
April 28, 2009, 01:45:13 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 28, 2009, 11:58:09 AM

Not as significant as is hyped, IMO.  Not all Democrats will always vote with their party, especially on more liberal issues, and there are several Republicans (including Specter) who have sided with Democrats in the past few months.


I would say: significant. Spector is now going to have to establish a liberal enough voting record to survive a democratic primary if he wants to make it to a general election. There is no way he will win a primary if he votes against cap and trade, universal health care, and card check.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Berkut

#23
April 28, 2009, 01:47:26 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on April 28, 2009, 01:40:06 PM
Quote from: Berkut on April 28, 2009, 11:53:13 AM

Who is this "they"?

Did all the republicans get together and vote have Specter switch?


"They" are the majority of republicans that were apparently about to vote him off their ticket.

In favor of some other Republican though. It isn't like Specter The Republican was going to win the general election anyway, right?
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ulmont

#24
April 28, 2009, 01:50:46 PM Last Edit: April 28, 2009, 01:53:55 PM by ulmont
Quote from: Berkut on April 28, 2009, 01:47:26 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on April 28, 2009, 01:40:06 PM
Quote from: Berkut on April 28, 2009, 11:53:13 AM

Who is this "they"?

Did all the republicans get together and vote have Specter switch?


"They" are the majority of republicans that were apparently about to vote him off their ticket.

In favor of some other Republican though. It isn't like Specter The Republican was going to win the general election anyway, right?

Specter the Republican could have won the general election.  Specter had really good numbers among Independents and Democrats, so just consolidating the Republicans a bit would have put him over the top.

Toomey the Republican was not going to win the general election.

"Voters approve 52 - 33 percent of the job Specter is doing, with a 71 - 16 percent positive score from Democrats and a 41 - 37 percent boost from independent voters, off-setting a 52 - 36 percent disapproval from Republicans."
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1327.xml?ReleaseID=1280

alfred russel

#25
April 28, 2009, 01:54:20 PM
From what I read, Spector was a favorite to win the general election if he won the primary.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

DGuller

#26
April 28, 2009, 02:02:52 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on April 28, 2009, 01:45:13 PM
I would say: significant. Spector is now going to have to establish a liberal enough voting record to survive a democratic primary if he wants to make it to a general election. There is no way he will win a primary if he votes against cap and trade, universal health care, and card check.
Didn't the Democrats promise no primary challenge in exchange for the switch?

alfred russel

#27
April 28, 2009, 02:03:57 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 28, 2009, 02:02:52 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on April 28, 2009, 01:45:13 PM
I would say: significant. Spector is now going to have to establish a liberal enough voting record to survive a democratic primary if he wants to make it to a general election. There is no way he will win a primary if he votes against cap and trade, universal health care, and card check.
Didn't the Democrats promise no primary challenge in exchange for the switch?

I don't know, I just saw the headline.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

saskganesh

#28
April 28, 2009, 02:25:47 PM
RINO? what's that stand for?

heh. "irrelephant" is a good word.

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fhdz

#29
April 28, 2009, 02:26:44 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on April 28, 2009, 02:25:47 PM
RINO? what's that stand for?

Republican In Name Only.
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