Battlefield 3

[Neil]

People with shotgun frag shells must die.

[derspiess]

One thing I'm having to adjust to vs. BFBC2 is bullet drop for assault rifles.  More specifically, I need to break myself of the habit of taking on a sniper at medium or long range when I'm assault class.

You gotta work up to the point you can unlock the 6x rifle scope for Assault.  6x scope and bipod can murder snipers, but you need to use the AN-94 and the M16A4, because they have the limited 3-round bursts.  Don't try full auto weapons, because you can't hit shit, and don't go single-shot because that won't drop them.  Don't use suppressors because they make the ballistic drop worse, and don't use laser targeters, because they just give you away.  Two 3-rd bursts in quick succession can drop a sniper before he has time to get you.

I have no problem taking on a sniper at long range with an M16A4 or a AN94, as long as I have the bipod and the 6x rifle scope.  Anything less and yeah, you're outmatched.

Don't those scopes give away your position like the sniper scopes?

[CountDeMoney]

Don't those scopes give away your position like the sniper scopes?

Pull the trigger fast enough, it doesn't matter.

[Neil]

I think they do scope glint on anything above 4x.

[Mr. Grey]

The SV98 seems like a good sniper rifle.  The M39 w/ACOG is a good weapon for medium range engagement as well.  I'm still struggling a bit with estimating & compensating for bullet drop at long ranges. 

I just unlocked the m39 last night. I kept putting co-op off because none of my friends were willing to sit down and do it....it wasn't until I went to set up a co-op game last night that I realized you could do it with random people. I am going to try and level up recon a little tonight with it.

And the coop map with the attack helicopter can give some good flying practice...better than nothing!

I had another match last night where a thoughtful recon player on my team set out the laser designator thingie and apparently pointed it at the US spawn.  I sat there with Javelin & had a field day-- competing with the dude on the mobile AA for vehicle kills.  About the only way they could get close to objectives was to be sneaky with RHIB boats (which can take an awful lot of small arms fire).  Almost felt guilty until I realized that most of my kills were on the guy who had been spamming us with those annoying 12 gauge frag shells on the previous map .

I have to admit at being a noob about certain things. I always play solo and not as recon, so I didn't realize about laser targetting/javelin. I started doing it the other night in order to take down scout helicopters. Pretty fun!

[derspiess]

I have to admit at being a noob about certain things. I always play solo and not as recon, so I didn't realize about laser targetting/javelin. I started doing it the other night in order to take down scout helicopters. Pretty fun!

What I like most about it is that it rewards teamwork.  Just wish the recon guy got more points for the assists.

[Neil]

I have to admit at being a noob about certain things. I always play solo and not as recon, so I didn't realize about laser targetting/javelin. I started doing it the other night in order to take down scout helicopters. Pretty fun!

What I like most about it is that it rewards teamwork.

Yeah, that's what I like best about the whole series.  It's about teamwork while shooting people in the face, rather than just shooting people in the face.

[derspiess]

I've decided I much prefer being a gunner in a competently-flown AH-1Z or MI-28 over actually flying.  Was playing Wake Island the other day and he flew back & forth over a couple enemy-held objectives & I think we racked up like 15-20 kills between the two of us.  Helped me unlock a few things that might help me if I do decide to fly at some point.

Earlier on the same map I jumped in the Skid Loader to try & take a stab at getting the achievement for killing someone with it.  After 45 seconds of trying to keep the thing on the road I got lucky & ran over two guys trying to take out one of our tanks.

[derspiess]

A good CQB setup with Support is something like the M249 with a foregrip, smaller scope and a suppressor.  You're a buzz saw in a hallway with that thing.

I don't really prefer running & gunning, but I guess you kinda have to on certain maps, like the subway part of Metro.  I've found the M249 with foregrip, holo sight & laser sight to be a beast.  Again, I hate running around & firing from the hip, but it is nice to be able to rip through 3 guys at once without having to aim and still have 50 rounds left on the belt.  I refuse to do that dancing shit the kids like to do, though.

Claymores are great for those rush matches where your team is way undermatched and has to defend.  The attackers will pretty much sprint the entire map, so I just place my claymores in high traffic areas, keep my head down & ambush where I can with my M249.  With the claymores it's almost a guaranteed 4-5 kills in that scenario.

[Neil]

A good CQB setup with Support is something like the M249 with a foregrip, smaller scope and a suppressor.  You're a buzz saw in a hallway with that thing.

I don't really prefer running & gunning, but I guess you kinda have to on certain maps, like the subway part of Metro.  I've found the M249 with foregrip, holo sight & laser sight to be a beast.  Again, I hate running around & firing from the hip, but it is nice to be able to rip through 3 guys at once without having to aim and still have 50 rounds left on the belt.  I refuse to do that dancing shit the kids like to do, though.

Claymores are great for those rush matches where your team is way undermatched and has to defend.  The attackers will pretty much sprint the entire map, so I just place my claymores in high traffic areas, keep my head down & ambush where I can with my M249.  With the claymores it's almost a guaranteed 4-5 kills in that scenario.

I play pretty much exclusively conquest, and I do Metro a fair bit, so I spend a lot of time running and gunning in the ticket station.  Supporting with an emplaced M249 and shooting folks with the M16A4/grenade launcher have become ways to rack up ungodly numbers of kills.  I know that for assault, the FAMAS is supposed to be so crazy good as to be imbalanced, but it never seems that effective for me.

[Mr. Grey]

I have learned the joy of the support class this past weekend. I unlocked the MG36 and was ripping people up!  Unlimited ammo, ability to still blow up vehicles, and rack up huge pts defending a flag.

My buddy was an engineer and we just sat in the back streets of siene crossing launching unlimited grenades/rpgs down the hall/stairs.

Teamwork is the key to this game...I love having a squad with 4 different perks.

[Neil]

I finally got my butterbar the other day.

[derspiess]

I know that for assault, the FAMAS is supposed to be so crazy good as to be imbalanced, but it never seems that effective for me.

I think it has the highest rate of fire of any weapon, plus the recoil seems really light.  Takes me forever to get my first 10 kills with anything, with the way the game makes iron sights so difficult to use.  But I might stick with it once I reach that point.  Getting tired of having the drop on a guy, firing first and hitting him, yet have him win because his ungodly 1000 rpm.

[derspiess]

I have learned the joy of the support class this past weekend. I unlocked the MG36 and was ripping people up!  Unlimited ammo, ability to still blow up vehicles, and rack up huge pts defending a flag.

My buddy was an engineer and we just sat in the back streets of siene crossing launching unlimited grenades/rpgs down the hall/stairs.

Teamwork is the key to this game...I love having a squad with 4 different perks.

Now that I have 2 squad perks I try to coordinate mine with my team.  Unless I'm engineer-- gotta have my explosives.

[derspiess]

Also, I noticed last night that I was somehow able to use a 12x ballistic scope (which I didn't think I had for any of my sniper weapons, let alone others) on the FAMAS and that QBB-95 LMG.  Not particularly useful, though it was fun to use it to spot snipers pretty easily.

Dunno if it was a bug or what.