Guilty pleasures or conscious immoral decisions you take?

[crazy canuck]

Tim, you remain silent about Marti saying incest is ethical.  Strange given your recent treatment of Yi.

The Yi thing was about an adult having sex with a child. Incest between consenting adults is bad how?

Incest can also be between a parent and their child.

So if something can be done in a questionable manner it is in itself bad?

I assume you mean that the child is a minor.

oh boy

[Razgovory]

Most people wouldn't keep cattle if it wasn't profitable. 

Someone should tell that to my brother-in-law.

What does your brother-in-law do with the cows?

[The Brain]

Tim, you remain silent about Marti saying incest is ethical.  Strange given your recent treatment of Yi.

The Yi thing was about an adult having sex with a child. Incest between consenting adults is bad how?

Incest can also be between a parent and their child.

So if something can be done in a questionable manner it is in itself bad?

I assume you mean that the child is a minor.

oh boy

Elaborate.

[crazy canuck]

Tim, you remain silent about Marti saying incest is ethical.  Strange given your recent treatment of Yi.

The Yi thing was about an adult having sex with a child. Incest between consenting adults is bad how?

Incest can also be between a parent and their child.

So if something can be done in a questionable manner it is in itself bad?

I assume you mean that the child is a minor.

oh boy

Elaborate.

You mean to suggest that sex between a parent and their child at any age is acceptable?

[The Brain]

Tim, you remain silent about Marti saying incest is ethical.  Strange given your recent treatment of Yi.

The Yi thing was about an adult having sex with a child. Incest between consenting adults is bad how?

Incest can also be between a parent and their child.

So if something can be done in a questionable manner it is in itself bad?

I assume you mean that the child is a minor.

oh boy

Elaborate.

You mean to suggest that sex between a parent and their child at any age is exceptable?

Edit: no, "consenting adults", remember?

[crazy canuck]

Edit: no, "consenting adults", remember?

Yes, so you do seem to be suggesting that it is ok for parents to have sex with their children after the children reach the age of consent.  In jursidictions where age of consent is as low as 14 or 16 do you really so no problem with a father having sex with his 14 or 16 year old daugher?

[Ideologue]

Laws criminalizing sexual relationships based on one party having a position of authority over the other (such as a WA statute that criminalizes sexual relations between students under 18 and their teachers, superceding the age of consent in such cases) could take care of that, CC.  It's not an all-or-nothing affair.

[Razgovory]

Stop pretending to be lawyer.  It's annoying.

[crazy canuck]

Laws criminalizing sexual relationships based on one party having a position of authority over the other (such as a WA statute that criminalizes sexual relations between students under 18 and their teachers, superceding the age of consent in such cases) could take care of that, CC.  It's not an all-or-nothing affair.

That doesnt make incest ethically defensible.  It makes other similar power relationships wrong as well.  What do you mean by not an all or nothing affair?  Of course all exploitive sexual relationships should be criminalized.

[The Brain]

Edit: no, "consenting adults", remember?

Yes, so you do seem to be suggesting that it is ok for parents to have sex with their children after the children reach the age of consent.  In jursidictions where age of consent is as low as 14 or 16 do you really so no problem with a father having sex with his 14 or 16 year old daugher?

In Sweden the age of consent is 15. A 15 y/o isn't an adult though. I said consenting adults.

[Ideologue]

Laws criminalizing sexual relationships based on one party having a position of authority over the other (such as a WA statute that criminalizes sexual relations between students under 18 and their teachers, superceding the age of consent in such cases) could take care of that, CC.  It's not an all-or-nothing affair.

That doesnt make incest ethically defensible.  It makes other similar power relationships wrong as well.  What do you mean by not an all or nothing affair?  Of course all exploitive sexual relationships should be criminalized.

I mean that there are varying degrees of control available between fully criminalizing incestuous relationships and fully permitting them.  It's something to consider, is all.  The normal AoC need not apply.

Fwiw, the potential for exploitation is the strongest argument against incest, so in cases where that element is removed (adults meeting for the first time, cousin relationships), it seriously weakens the case for criminal prosecution or failure to provide a marriage license.  The eugenics aspect is still possibly valid enough to refrain from officially sanctioning such a relationship.

[Capetan Mihali]

Of course all exploitive sexual relationships should be criminalized.

  I foresee the criminal population expanding significantly...

[crazy canuck]

Edit: no, "consenting adults", remember?

Yes, so you do seem to be suggesting that it is ok for parents to have sex with their children after the children reach the age of consent.  In jursidictions where age of consent is as low as 14 or 16 do you really so no problem with a father having sex with his 14 or 16 year old daugher?

In Sweden the age of consent is 15. A 15 y/o isn't an adult though. I said consenting adults.

Ok what is an adult in Sweden 18 - 21. Is it ok for a father to have sex with their 18-21 year old daughter or son?

[crazy canuck]

Of course all exploitive sexual relationships should be criminalized.

  I foresee the criminal population expanding significantly...

I guess you are one of the feminist theory - all sex is rape types.

[Valmy]

Of course all exploitive sexual relationships should be criminalized.

  I foresee the criminal population expanding significantly...

Are exploitive sexual relationships that common?