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Neil

#885
July 23, 2012, 09:59:02 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 23, 2012, 09:04:12 AM
Mike McQuery is now the last Penn state QB with a winning record!  :D
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Barrister

#886
July 23, 2012, 10:00:23 AM
Quote from: Neil on July 23, 2012, 09:59:02 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 23, 2012, 09:04:12 AM
Mike McQuery is now the last Penn state QB with a winning record!  :D
Nope.  You can't make things unhappen.  That's how time works.

:D
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jimmy olsen

#887
July 23, 2012, 10:14:06 AM
Seems that they lost more scholarships than I thought.  :huh:

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2012/7/23/3177329/penn-state-football-recruiting-impact-ncaa-sanctions/in/2304037

QuotePenn State received a penalty of 10 initial scholarships and 20 total per year. What this means is that Penn State's recruiting class size is restricted to 15 for each of the next four years, and that the maximum roster size for each of the next four years is 65.
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MadBurgerMaker

#888
July 23, 2012, 10:15:54 AM
FCS scholarship numbers. 

garbon

#889
July 23, 2012, 10:16:07 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 23, 2012, 10:14:06 AM
Seems that they lost more scholarships than I thought.  :huh:

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2012/7/23/3177329/penn-state-football-recruiting-impact-ncaa-sanctions/in/2304037

QuotePenn State received a penalty of 10 initial scholarships and 20 total per year. What this means is that Penn State's recruiting class size is restricted to 15 for each of the next four years, and that the maximum roster size for each of the next four years is 65.

Yeah it looks like many of the main outlets have now revised coverage of that bit.
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#890
July 23, 2012, 10:16:42 AM
Quote from: Barrister on July 23, 2012, 09:51:37 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 23, 2012, 09:51:02 AM
Quote from: katmai on July 23, 2012, 09:46:03 AM
Well it was really only recourse to punish Paterno that they had.

What's the point in punishing the dead?

This.

Yep.  His legacy is sufficiently tarnished without going back & altering the record books.
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Berkut

#891
July 23, 2012, 10:18:13 AM
Arizona has immediate opening for all kinds of spots!

WTB DEs, LBs, another QB who can run, some depth on OL...can we just grab the entire Penn State roster?
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sbr

#892
July 23, 2012, 10:18:27 AM
Normally schools can offer a maximum 25 new scholarships each year and can have a total of 85 players on scholarship at any one time.

With the sanctions PSU can only offer 15 new per year and can only have 65 total.  So it isn't really that big a change from what was originally reported.

Berkut

#893
July 23, 2012, 10:22:08 AM
Holy.
Shit.

You know what this means?

One of the most embarrassing, soul crushing, and program killing losses in Arizona history NEVER HAPPENED!

Arizona 1999: 7-5!

Arizona coming off a top ten finish in 1998 was ranked in the top-10 going into 1999. SI said we were going to win the national title.

We opened at Penn State, and LaVar funcing Arrington just took us apart, and the season was a huge disappointment.

Or rather, we thought he did - now it turn out that it never actually happened!
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katmai

#894
July 23, 2012, 10:23:42 AM
No still only won 8 games and Zona still full of fail.
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PDH

#895
July 23, 2012, 10:27:08 AM
Wyoming got a vacated win against an SEC team a while back, iirc.  Didn't help, they still really lost the game.
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MadBurgerMaker

#896
July 23, 2012, 10:32:44 AM
Quote from: PDH on July 23, 2012, 10:27:08 AM
Wyoming got a vacated win against an SEC team a while back, iirc.  Didn't help, they still really lost the game.

That was Colorado.  They had to forfeit a bunch of wins.  They weren't vacated like this.

When it's vacated, the W is just zeroed out.  They don't change the records of the other teams.

alfred russel

#897
July 23, 2012, 10:34:53 AM
I'm curious about a couple of things...I thought in 1998 the police were somehow notified and did an investigation, but for some reason didn't pursue anything. In 2001 Sandusky was seen in the shower. With that timeline, why punish back to 1998? Was Joe Paterno supposed to lead a lynch mob against the guy?

Also, Penn State is a non profit educational institution, supported by taxpayers. Football scandal aside, it is apparently a good one. What good does transferring $60m from it to other charities do (like say, the second mile)? I know Penn State wouldn't do so because of the PR implications, but giving lower income Pennsylvania students $60m in scholarship opportunities to Penn State would seem to be a very solid charitable gift. 
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Darth Wagtaros

#898
July 23, 2012, 10:36:07 AM
if I'm remembering correctly the DA's investigating early on ran into outright rudeness and rage from the cops at the idea of going after Penn State.
PDH!

jimmy olsen

#899
July 23, 2012, 10:36:41 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on July 23, 2012, 10:34:53 AM
I'm curious about a couple of things...I thought in 1998 the police were somehow notified and did an investigation, but for some reason didn't pursue anything. In 2001 Sandusky was seen in the shower. With that timeline, why punish back to 1998? Was Joe Paterno supposed to lead a lynch mob against the guy?

Also, Penn State is a non profit educational institution, supported by taxpayers. Football scandal aside, it is apparently a good one. What good does transferring $60m from it to other charities do (like say, the second mile)? I know Penn State wouldn't do so because of the PR implications, but giving lower income Pennsylvania students $60m in scholarship opportunities to Penn State would seem to be a very solid charitable gift.
The police were surprised that the '98 case wasn't prosecuted. I'm betting that Paterno influenced that.
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