American Gun Ownership Highest In 18 Years

[11B4V]

MAYBE THE CLIP WASNT CURVED I DONT KNOW

THATS IT. WARNING LEVEL INCREASE BUDDY.

[11B4V]

Bought a gun the other day.

It's cute, small, fits right in your pocket? Right in your pocket?

It's long and beautiful.

[11B4V]

One more time for the firearms retarded challenged folks

[11B4V]

Not enough pew pew and scary black parts.

It's Scandinavian. We're not savages here you know.

[Ed Anger]

I am. I want scary black weapons.

Or a My little pony AR-15. For the kids.

[garbon]

One more time for the firearms retarded challenged folks

Who cares?

[Martinus]

One more time for the firearms retarded challenged folks

Who cares?

We have already established in the Valmy-is-not-a-Christian thread that you do not care about meaning of words, only that people speak nicely and softly to each other.

But for those of us who do not live in the lalaland, words still matter.

[garbon]

One more time for the firearms retarded challenged folks

Who cares?

We have already established in the Valmy-is-not-a-Christian thread that you do not care about meaning of words, only that people speak nicely and softly to each other.

But for those of us who do not live in the lalaland, words still matter.

Oh you care about the parts of the gun?

Also, I think you took the wrong lesson given that I said I wouldn't consider V to be Christian.

[Valmy]

We have already established in the Valmy-is-not-a-Christian thread that you do not care about meaning of words, only that people speak nicely and softly to each other.

But for those of us who do not live in the lalaland, words still matter.

Ah man. I felt like we had connected on the religion thing. And hey can we keep my religion in the appropriate thread? That would be great.

[11B4V]

One more time for the firearms retarded challenged folks

Who cares?

I do.

[CountDeMoney]

The Opinion Pages | Editorial

Missouri: The Shoot-Me State

By THE EDITORIAL BOARD
SEPT. 16, 2016

In an alarming victory for the gun lobby, Missouri's Republican-controlled Legislature voted Wednesday to override Gov. Jay Nixon's veto and enact a wholesale retreat from gun safety in the state.

The law will let citizens carry concealed weapons in public without a state gun permit, criminal background check or firearms training. It strips local law enforcement of its current authority to deny firearms to those guilty of domestic violence and to other high-risk individuals. And it establishes a dangerous "stand your ground" standard that will allow gun owners to shoot and claim self-defense based on their own sense of feeling threatened.

The measure has drawn no great national attention, but it certainly provides further evidence that gun safety cannot be left to state lawmakers beholden to the gun lobby. Democrats opposed to the Missouri bill called it a "perfect storm" of lowered standards for the use of deadly force and an invitation for people to be armed without responsible controls. The measure was enacted by the Republicans, despite strong public opposition and warnings about the threat to public safety from the state Police Chiefs Association. Everytown for Gun Safety, one of the groups fighting the gun lobby, noted that stand your ground laws result in disproportionate harm to communities of color.

Mr. Nixon, a Democrat, vetoed the measure in June, saying it would allow individuals with a criminal record to legally carry a concealed firearm even though they had been, or would have been, denied a permit under the old law's background check. Mayors Sly James of Kansas City and Francis Slay of St. Louis warned against restricting the power of the local police to deny guns to those who commit domestic violence. They cited sharp spikes in domestic violence homicides in their cities, and they noted that the police would be left at greater risk by this bill.

Republican legislative leaders, who cut short debate on the override vote on the last day of the session, were ebullient in overriding a variety of the governor's vetoes beyond the gun measure, including one that will force voters to show a government photo ID.

Senator Maria Chappelle-Nadal, a lawmaker from Ferguson, which erupted in protests after the 2014 fatal police shooting of Michael Brown, an unarmed African-American teenager, warned that enacting the stand-your-ground standard would mean another "bad Samaritan like Zimmerman." She was referring to the shooting death in Florida four years ago of Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black teenager, by George Zimmerman; in that case the judge's instructions to the jury contained some of the language of the stand your ground law.

Missouri is joining 10 other states that loosened gun laws to allow concealed firearms in public without the need for a permit. Federal gun controls still require background checks on buyers, but only at federally licensed dealers. Unfortunately, there is a separate and busy uncontrolled market where buyers at gun shows and on the internet do not have to undergo background checks.

In the presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton has called for extensive gun safety measures, including a ban on the assault weapons favored by mass shooters, closing background-check loopholes, ending the gun industry's outrageous protection from civil damage suits and denying guns to risky suspects on the government's no-fly lists. Donald Trump, endorsed by the National Rifle Association, favors more armed civilians ready to engage in what he calls a defensive "shootout." This is one of the most pathetic measures yet of his pandering, when he should be leading, on an issue of vital importance to the public.

Best of luck out there in the Dumbfuckistan Tribal Areas, Raz.  Shoot straight.

[Malthus]

One more time for the firearms retarded challenged folks

Who cares?

I do.

"A clip by any other name would shoot as straight" - with apologies to Shakespeare. 

[DGuller]

I remember reading something from a firearms expert, who mocked all those newly-baked experts drawing distinction between clips and magazines.  He said that for all his career, people called magazines clips and no one was either confused or bothered by it.

[Razgovory]

The Opinion Pages | Editorial

Missouri: The Shoot-Me State

By THE EDITORIAL BOARD
SEPT. 16, 2016

In an alarming victory for the gun lobby, Missouri's Republican-controlled Legislature voted Wednesday to override Gov. Jay Nixon's veto and enact a wholesale retreat from gun safety in the state.

The law will let citizens carry concealed weapons in public without a state gun permit, criminal background check or firearms training. It strips local law enforcement of its current authority to deny firearms to those guilty of domestic violence and to other high-risk individuals. And it establishes a dangerous "stand your ground" standard that will allow gun owners to shoot and claim self-defense based on their own sense of feeling threatened.

The measure has drawn no great national attention, but it certainly provides further evidence that gun safety cannot be left to state lawmakers beholden to the gun lobby. Democrats opposed to the Missouri bill called it a "perfect storm" of lowered standards for the use of deadly force and an invitation for people to be armed without responsible controls. The measure was enacted by the Republicans, despite strong public opposition and warnings about the threat to public safety from the state Police Chiefs Association. Everytown for Gun Safety, one of the groups fighting the gun lobby, noted that stand your ground laws result in disproportionate harm to communities of color.

Mr. Nixon, a Democrat, vetoed the measure in June, saying it would allow individuals with a criminal record to legally carry a concealed firearm even though they had been, or would have been, denied a permit under the old law's background check. Mayors Sly James of Kansas City and Francis Slay of St. Louis warned against restricting the power of the local police to deny guns to those who commit domestic violence. They cited sharp spikes in domestic violence homicides in their cities, and they noted that the police would be left at greater risk by this bill.

Republican legislative leaders, who cut short debate on the override vote on the last day of the session, were ebullient in overriding a variety of the governor's vetoes beyond the gun measure, including one that will force voters to show a government photo ID.

Senator Maria Chappelle-Nadal, a lawmaker from Ferguson, which erupted in protests after the 2014 fatal police shooting of Michael Brown, an unarmed African-American teenager, warned that enacting the stand-your-ground standard would mean another "bad Samaritan like Zimmerman." She was referring to the shooting death in Florida four years ago of Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black teenager, by George Zimmerman; in that case the judge's instructions to the jury contained some of the language of the stand your ground law.

Missouri is joining 10 other states that loosened gun laws to allow concealed firearms in public without the need for a permit. Federal gun controls still require background checks on buyers, but only at federally licensed dealers. Unfortunately, there is a separate and busy uncontrolled market where buyers at gun shows and on the internet do not have to undergo background checks.

In the presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton has called for extensive gun safety measures, including a ban on the assault weapons favored by mass shooters, closing background-check loopholes, ending the gun industry's outrageous protection from civil damage suits and denying guns to risky suspects on the government's no-fly lists. Donald Trump, endorsed by the National Rifle Association, favors more armed civilians ready to engage in what he calls a defensive "shootout." This is one of the most pathetic measures yet of his pandering, when he should be leading, on an issue of vital importance to the public.

Best of luck out there in the Dumbfuckistan Tribal Areas, Raz.  Shoot straight.

Here's what passes for Political discourse here in Missouri https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wqOApBLPio

[11B4V]

I remember reading something from a firearms expert, who mocked all those newly-baked experts drawing distinction between clips and magazines.  He said that for all his career, people called magazines clips and no one was either confused or bothered by it.

He's an idiot.