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American Gun Ownership Highest In 18 Years

Started by jimmy olsen, October 27, 2011, 10:48:23 AM

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lustindarkness

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Quote from: Malthus on October 30, 2015, 10:03:18 AM
Quote from: lustindarkness on October 30, 2015, 09:44:45 AM
Popcorn to the face is a lethal weapon? Nice.

It's the unpopped bits at the bottom that are truly deadly.  :( Like buckshot, they are.

As long as the shooter THINKS they are deadly, that is really all that matters.
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Valmy

By the way if this guy actually wins this case it will basically mean the 'stand your ground law' has legalized murder. Hah! Take that Oregon and your wimpy legalization of pot.
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Quote from: Berkut on October 30, 2015, 10:50:48 AM
Quote from: Malthus on October 30, 2015, 10:03:18 AM
Quote from: lustindarkness on October 30, 2015, 09:44:45 AM
Popcorn to the face is a lethal weapon? Nice.

It's the unpopped bits at the bottom that are truly deadly.  :( Like buckshot, they are.

As long as the shooter THINKS they are deadly, that is really all that matters.

Hell, if you can shoot a guy for popcorn, imagine what you could do to a guy who farts like Ed. That's a weapon of ass destruction, that is.  :D
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Quote from: Valmy on October 30, 2015, 10:53:31 AM
By the way if this guy actually wins this case it will basically mean the 'stand your ground law' has legalized murder. Hah! Take that Oregon and your wimpy legalization of pot.

Legal pot or stand your ground. I'll take the pot.
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If this asshole had been a little baked, he might not have been so quick to shoot someone offering him free popcorn.
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Quote from: Berkut on October 30, 2015, 11:14:36 AM
If this asshole had been a little baked, he might not have been so quick to shoot someone offering him free popcorn.

Specially with the price of popcorn at the movies!
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Quote from: Berkut on October 30, 2015, 11:14:36 AM
If this asshole had been a little baked, he might not have been so quick to shoot someone offering him free popcorn.

He's a former police captain. 
Incredible.
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Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 30, 2015, 12:18:41 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 30, 2015, 11:14:36 AM
If this asshole had been a little baked, he might not have been so quick to shoot someone offering him free popcorn.

He's a former police captain. 
Incredible.

Given the state of police-civilian relations in the US, you'd expect him to be a current police captain.  ;)
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Quote from: Malthus on October 30, 2015, 11:03:28 AM
Quote from: Berkut on October 30, 2015, 10:50:48 AM
Quote from: Malthus on October 30, 2015, 10:03:18 AM
Quote from: lustindarkness on October 30, 2015, 09:44:45 AM
Popcorn to the face is a lethal weapon? Nice.

It's the unpopped bits at the bottom that are truly deadly.  :( Like buckshot, they are.

As long as the shooter THINKS they are deadly, that is really all that matters.

Hell, if you can shoot a guy for popcorn, imagine what you could do to a guy who farts like Ed. That's a weapon of ass destruction, that is.  :D

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garbon

Quote from: Berkut on October 30, 2015, 08:52:17 AM
Florida takes their shoot first, ask questions later law out for another spin.

http://news.yahoo.com/florida-man-shot-theatergoer-texting-invoke-stand-ground-124807512.html

QuoteMr. Reeves was arrested for the fatal shooting of Chad Oulson in January 2014. Police say Mr. Oulson threw his bag of popcorn in Reeves' face after the former captain criticized him for texting. Reeves responded by pulling out his gun and shooting Oulson in the chest, according to law enforcement. A bullet also grazed Oulson's wife, Nicole.

"I think we have a pretty solid stand your ground case," Richard Escobar, Reeves' attorney, told the Tampa Bay Times.

What is crazy about this is that his lawyer is probably right. The law is so vague and ridiculous, that having popcorn thrown at you is probably, under Florida law, a reasonable threat that justifies killing someone.

This would be funny if it wasn't actually really. :(
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http://news.yahoo.com/police-concealed-carry-license-holder-kills-armed-gunman-161526329.html

Concealed carry license holder kills armed gunman

QuoteA customer with a concealed carry license shot and killed an armed man attempting to rob a Chicago neighborhood store, police said Sunday.

A masked man walked into the store and currency exchange about 7 p.m. Saturday on the city's southwest side, displayed a handgun and announced a robbery to an employee, police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said. The gunman then pointed his weapon at another employee and forced her to the back of the store.

The armed customer then fatally shot the man, identified Sunday by the Cook County medical examiner's office as 55-year-old Reginald Gildersleeve. Other details about Gildersleeve weren't released.

No one else was hurt during the incident. It wasn't immediately clear whether the customer, who has not been identified, will face charges. Guglielmi said preliminary details suggest the customer was not at fault, but that the case was under review by local prosecutors.

"We're looking at it as a self-defense issue at this point," he said.

Last month, a Michigan woman with a concealed carry license shot at shoplifters fleeing a Detroit-area Home Depot store, flattening a tire of their SUV. No one was hurt, and the suspected shoplifters were arrested several days later. The woman faces up to 90 days in jail after pleading no contest to a charge of reckless discharge of a firearm. Two other shootings in which citizens fired at lawbreakers or potential lawbreakers also happened in September in Michigan.

"It's a slippery slope" when it comes to the question of whether citizens who are licensed to carry guns should intervene in dangerous situations, if at all, Guglielmi said.

"You have situations like this," he said, referring to the foiled Chicago robbery. "And you have situations that end tragically. The department is not going to advocate for what people should or shouldn't do."

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Berkut

No doubt that there will be cases, and have been cases, where someone having a gun has saved someone's life, or stopped something bad from happening.

The problem is that you don't get to just have those cases - you also get the CCW guy blowing someone away for throwing popcorn at him, or some vigilante nut job shooting at shoplifters.

Whether or not the inevitable latter cases are justified by the former is the real question.
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Quote from: lustindarkness on October 30, 2015, 10:45:00 AM
because only crazy people have guns
serious?
No, of course not.  The majority of gun owners are well balanced people, just like the majority of americans or canadians are well balanced people.  But you need only a few crazy people with free access to guns to create problems.
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