American Gun Ownership Highest In 18 Years

[11B4V]

Fuck the fishin pole and other silly crap. Damn right bitches.

[Razgovory]

I can't think of less effective way to fish.  Except maybe throwing brochures into the water to entice the fish to jump into the boat.

[mongers]

I can't think of less effective way to fish.  Except maybe throwing brochures into the water to entice the fish to jump into the boat.

I don't know the above guy could go the whole hog and just dangle his epice sized wang over the side like a fishing rod.

[CountDeMoney]

Meanwhile, just another mild summer weekend in Mobtown...

Seventeen people were shot in 10 incidents across the city from Friday afternoon through early Sunday evening. Eight of those people — two women and six men — were killed.

[HVC]

Meanwhile, just another mild summer weekend in Mobtown...

Seventeen people were shot in 10 incidents across the city from Friday afternoon through early Sunday evening. Eight of those people — two women and six men — were killed.

whats with summer heat a murder? People getting cranky?

[CountDeMoney]

whats with summer heat a murder? People getting cranky?

Yeah, but it when it gets too hot, people don't do anything, killing or otherwise.  Just too damned hot.

This weekend wasn't too hot but rather pretty--which makes it even likelier to have shootings, since everybody is out and about, enjoying life until it ends abruptly. 
Toss in a full moon, and you have a 99% chance of raining bullets.

You can always see a jump in shootings during a cool streak in the early summer, just like you see a jump in shootings during a warm streak in the early fall.  Makes 'em all twitchy like.   You can set your watch to it.

Hell, I was taking vM and his Missus on a short tour downtown and we rolled through part of the 'hood.  All the natives were out.  That makes for a target rich environment.

[Malthus]

Fuck the fishin pole and other silly crap. Damn right bitches.

Serious question: would an average gun work underwater?

I can't think of why it would not, assuming that the cartridges are watertight.

Would being underwater screw up the works somehow?

[ulmont]

Serious question: would an average gun work underwater?

Yes, but poorly.

Tory made sure that there was no air in the barrel because, if there was, the barrel could explode.

The first up was the 9mm. Without a ballistics gel target, the bullet went 18 ft. This answered the first question: yes, you can fire a regular gun underwater (confirmed). The 9mm bullet was intact, but the casing wasn't ejected from the gun. Instead, it was stuck in the slide, so you would only get one shot underwater.

Now they had verified that you can fire a gun underwater, they moved onto testing lethality. In the original episode, they found that a 9mm gun fired into water was lethal at 8ft. No so for a bullet fired underwater: the 9mm bullet didn't even come close to penetrating the target at 10ft. They next moved the target to 2ft, at which point they couldn't find the bullet. Same with the .357 magnum: they lost the bullet when fired at 2ft from the target.

Back at the shop they dissected the ballistics gel block and found the 9mm at 4" deep and the .357 magnum at 5.5", i.e. both would be lethal at 2ft.

http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2006/04/episode_51_myths_reopened.html

See also:
http://www.geek.com/geek-cetera/what-happens-when-you-fire-a-pistol-underwater-1414525/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/02/firing-guns-under-water-andrew-tuohy-video_n_1929909.html

[Malthus]

Thanks! Cool links. 

[11B4V]

General good info for "Gun Nuts".

Killed Someone In Self Defense, Now What ? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B667sHbfwAQ&nofeather=True


Concealed Carry "Mistakes"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-NOwxg4rxE&nofeather=True

[DGuller]

Killed Someone In Self Defense, Now What ? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B667sHbfwAQ&nofeather=True

Good find.    Don't shoot anyone in self-defense until you watch this video.

[11B4V]

The other one is good too.

[Razgovory]

Killed Someone In Self Defense, Now What ? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B667sHbfwAQ&nofeather=True

Good find.    Don't shoot anyone in self-defense until you watch this video.

I liked the petition at the bottom.

[11B4V]

Killed Someone In Self Defense, Now What ? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B667sHbfwAQ&nofeather=True

Good find.    Don't shoot anyone in self-defense until you watch this video.

I liked the petition at the bottom.

I'm unfamilar with Moveon.org. Dont even know what they do.

[garbon]

Killed Someone In Self Defense, Now What ? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B667sHbfwAQ&nofeather=True

Good find.    Don't shoot anyone in self-defense until you watch this video.

I liked the petition at the bottom.

I'm unfamilar with Moveon.org. Dont even know what they do.

Do you live under a rock / read nothing posted on Languish?