The Iraq War Poll

[Iormlund]

No WMDs were found, Islamic terrorism didn't cease and the democracy-domino theory proved itself an illusion. In fact the head of the only regime that changed course since was killed by its own revolting citizens this very week.

Tunisia and Eygpt don't count?

Certainly not. High food prices and the self-immolation of a young grocery salesman have much more to do with those events, that actually toppled allied regimes.

[Josquius]

I thought the concensus was that the Iraq war had delayed the Arab spring and it should have happened a few years back.

[dps]

I thought the concensus was that the Iraq war had delayed the Arab spring and it should have happened a few years back.

That's because you're an idiot.

[Josquius]

I thought the concensus was that the Iraq war had delayed the Arab spring and it should have happened a few years back.

That's because you're an idiot.

What a convincing counter argument.

[dps]

I thought the concensus was that the Iraq war had delayed the Arab spring and it should have happened a few years back.

That's because you're an idiot.

What a convincing counter argument.

It wasn't an argument, it was an insult.

[Razgovory]

I thought the concensus was that the Iraq war had delayed the Arab spring and it should have happened a few years back.

That's because you're an idiot.

What a convincing counter argument.

Your statement was an appeal to the masses, simply calling you an idiot is sufficient.

[Razgovory]

No WMDs were found, Islamic terrorism didn't cease and the democracy-domino theory proved itself an illusion. In fact the head of the only regime that changed course since was killed by its own revolting citizens this very week.

Tunisia and Eygpt don't count?

No.  I do remember when conservatives crowed about the Cedar Revolution as vindication of the Bush policy.  That stopped after the war between Israel and Lebanon started.

[Viking]

I wasn't aware Iceland participated in the Iraq war.

google Coalition of the Willing BEEYOTCH

Iceland is a good and loyal (also completely disarmed) ally unlike Norway under Stoltenberg

[Siege]

I wasn't aware Iceland participated in the Iraq war.

google Coalition of the Willing BEEYOTCH

Iceland is a good and loyal (also completely disarmed) ally unlike Norway under Stoltenberg

What do you mean?
Does Iceland have an army? Can you own arms in Iceland?

[Viking]

I wasn't aware Iceland participated in the Iraq war.

google Coalition of the Willing BEEYOTCH

Iceland is a good and loyal (also completely disarmed) ally unlike Norway under Stoltenberg

What do Iceland have an army? Can you own arms in Iceland?

you missed the bolded bit apparently..

Iceland does NOT have any form of military of it's own. It relies completely on NATO for its defense. Iceland does contribute to NATO and international operations by organizing personnel to participate in support roles though the Norwegian and Danish Military as well as UN peacekeeping forces.

To bear arms in iceland you need a gun license. To get the gun license you need to have about 200 US dollars, spend 3 afternoons taking a gun safety course, have a police and doctors certificate. The police issues the gun license. With that license you can get hunting rifles and shot-guns, though, if you don't actually hunt you can expect your license to be withdrawn. Pistols are not illegal, but require a special license which will almost certainly NOT be issued to anybody other than the Police Weapons squad and the security personnel of certain visiting dignitaries.

[Josquius]

It wasn't an argument, it was an insult.

i.e. you are in fact the idiot.

What a convincing counter argument.

Your statement was an appeal to the masses, simply calling you an idiot is sufficient.

An appeal to the masses? What?

[Eddie Teach]

It wasn't an argument, it was an insult.

i.e. you are in fact the idiot.

Sounds a lot like "I know you are but what am I?"

[Solmyr]

For the record I voted victory. I supported the war for the purposes of removing Saddam and co and we were successful in that.

[Razgovory]

An appeal to the masses? What?

A logical fallacy.

[Tamas]

Guys, I am as much of a supporter of American dominance as you can be without actually living there (imho, balance of power is bullshit and leads to world wars, and among the candidates, the US is by far the best option for a single superpower), but how can you possibly call Iraq a victory?

Because you defeated Saddam's military? Was that ever a question prior to the launch of the offensive? That after 5 years of Vietnam-reenaction your leaders figured out the "innovative" strategem of bribing one half of the tribals to help supress the other half?
A "democracy" which is divided among the main lines of the country? A once strong barrier in front of your biggest regional threat, Iran, now on a near-guaranteed course to become Iran's puppet? Or a counry which is supposedly independent and stable enough to see the US go, yet just this week about ten thousand Turkish soldiers raided it's Kurdish citizens?
And I won't even mention the tremendious PR loss the US suffered because of the whole campaign.

This was a victory in the strictest tactical military sense, but a disaster strategically.