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So just who is the 99%?

Started by Barrister, October 20, 2011, 02:51:22 PM

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Barrister

I got to wondering.  I make a pretty decent income these days, and now that my wife is working our household income is pretty healthy.  But does that make us the hated 1%?

Anyone know income or asset percentiles in Canada, the US, and the rest of the world?

How many of Languishites are in the 1%?
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DGuller


citizen k

I would imagine many millionaires are in the 99%. At least in U.S.



ulmont

Quote from: Barrister on October 20, 2011, 02:51:22 PM
I got to wondering.  I make a pretty decent income these days, and now that my wife is working our household income is pretty healthy.  But does that make us the hated 1%?

Nah.  Assuming your wife makes the same salary as you, you hit about the 4% mark in the U.S.

There's a calculator here:
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2011/10/19/what-percent-are-you/?mod=wsj_share_twitter

You have to hit about $500K as a household to be in the hated 1%.

The Brain

Is the 99% shit based on household income? Wow.
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DGuller

What counts as a household income?  Your salary, the total value of your compensation package, or the AGI on your 1040?

garbon

Quote from: ulmont on October 20, 2011, 02:55:23 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 20, 2011, 02:51:22 PM
I got to wondering.  I make a pretty decent income these days, and now that my wife is working our household income is pretty healthy.  But does that make us the hated 1%?

Nah.  Assuming your wife makes the same salary as you, you hit about the 4% mark in the U.S.

There's a calculator here:
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2011/10/19/what-percent-are-you/?mod=wsj_share_twitter

You have to hit about $500K as a household to be in the hated 1%.


That's not what CNN is saying.  CNN says that in 2009 - you just had to have 343k.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/20/news/economy/occupy_wall_street_income/index.htm?hpt=hp_t2
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Barrister

My wife's income is significantly less than mine, actually.

But I suspect that the stats are different for Canada.  Thanks for the link though ulmont.  In the US I'm at the 94th percentile.
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garbon

Quote from: DGuller on October 20, 2011, 02:52:48 PM
Almost everyone is.

That said I think it is pretty presumptuous of the protestors to claim to speak for everyone but the top 1%.
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Valmy

Quote from: Barrister on October 20, 2011, 02:51:22 PM
I got to wondering.  I make a pretty decent income these days, and now that my wife is working our household income is pretty healthy.  But does that make us the hated 1%?

Anyone know income or asset percentiles in Canada, the US, and the rest of the world?

How many of Languishites are in the 1%?

I think it is supposed to reflect the people whose wealth give them a disproportionate access to power and so forth not just having bags of cash.  Especially not for those us who, you know, work for wages.
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Valmy

Quote from: garbon on October 20, 2011, 03:03:20 PM
That said I think it is pretty presumptuous of the protestors to claim to speak for everyone but the top 1%.

They do not even really speak for each other.  Like any protest there are lots of people with different issues but with a general dissatisfaction with how things are run, just like the early Tea Party.  At least that will be the case until the Democrats co-opt them, just like the Tea Party, which is already in progress.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

QuoteAs democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

H.L. Mencken

Barrister

Quote from: Valmy on October 20, 2011, 03:12:50 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 20, 2011, 02:51:22 PM
I got to wondering.  I make a pretty decent income these days, and now that my wife is working our household income is pretty healthy.  But does that make us the hated 1%?

Anyone know income or asset percentiles in Canada, the US, and the rest of the world?

How many of Languishites are in the 1%?

I think it is supposed to reflect the people whose wealth give them a disproportionate access to power and so forth not just having bags of cash.  Especially not for those us who, you know, work for wages.

I know what it is supposed to reflect.

But they picked a real number to act as that symbol.  Which got me to wondering...  I found a few old figures for Canada that would put me in the top 1%, but how much have things chaged in the last 10 years?
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Valmy

Quote from: Barrister on October 20, 2011, 03:16:22 PM
But they picked a real number to act as that symbol.

Well there is not like a central committee of the Wall Street protests so their catchy slogans do not necessarily represent careful political and statistical studies.

But I do think things have changed alot in the past 10 years.  Ten years of inflation for one.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

QuoteAs democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

H.L. Mencken

MadImmortalMan

I probably don't know anybody in the 1%. Which is good when it comes to being mad at them. Easier that way.
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